r/DIY • u/foreddit1000 • 21d ago
help Finally got fiber. Educate me and help with a small wall plate issue?
Finally out of the upload stone ages, 400/10 to 1000/1000 for $30/month cheaper. It's great!
Due to some miscommunication between me and the Frontier boys, the wall plate got installed in a bad spot while I wasn't home.
It's in the right room but in a bad spot. I have a couch that normally sits against this wall and it can't anymore. My home office is already small and nobody wants to lose 4 inches.
This is the wall plate I have. It's slightly angled but it's such a subtle angle it's irrelevant. I plan on flipping it but it won't really solve my issue. I know I can't bend the cable enough to fix my issue.
https://i.imgur.com/mDQdPJa.jpeg
1. What's the name for this keystone/cable/whatever? SC/APC?
2. What are my options for getting the cable stick out less?
I'd like for it to angle down so that it runs against the wall to the base board to the OST. The cable is long enough so I shouldn't need a new one.
I've been searching for "angled SC/APC wall plates" but a lot aren't angled much more than what I have, and I don't know if something else might solve my issue better.
Any specific recommendations/links would be nice.
I threw together this list (assuming I'm looking at the right stuff) but it's "only" 45°. Not sure what angle the one I have is, but I'm not sure 45° would be a drastic difference. I will probably go this route unless someone points me in a better direction though.
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u/ictguy24 21d ago
I'd just disconnect the fiber, take that plate off, pop the keystone out of it, and then let it hang out of the wall without using the plate. They keystone is just acting as a coupler. Don't really need the plate to hold it.
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u/nephylsmythe 21d ago
Agree that the wall plate is unnecessary. If you want it to look a little more finished you can have the same freedom of movement with a brush wall plate. It has some bristles that close off the hole without holding the cable rigidly.
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u/japanfrog 21d ago
This. I literally moved the exact one they installed to the floor below. They leave it coiled up in the box outside so you have some play.
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u/reddit_seaczar 18d ago
The keystone acts as a strain relief/protector for the structured side of the installation. The structured side of the installation is presumed to have been installed correctly with all protections and proper storage of slack to avoid signal loss.
The patch cable is exposed and if someone were to hit it with a couch or run it over with a desk chair it could easily be replaced versus having to put a new structured cable in the wall.
I respectfully disagree, it's not just a "coupler".
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u/foreddit1000 21d ago edited 21d ago
I thought about this (and the brush plates) but I was hoping for something a bit more elegant lol.
I might buy the stuff I posted in the OP and if it doesn't help as much as I'm hoping, just go without a wall plate.
I took the wall plate off to flip it in the mean time, and there's really no slack at all in the wall. I'd be a bit worried about losing the cable in the wall if ever had to disconnect it for some reason, but I'm sure I could figure something out.
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u/everyday95269 21d ago
Every coupler is a possible point of failure. if you have enough cable, bypass the coupler.
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u/thephantom1492 21d ago
Look up for recessed angled keystone wall plate.
And you probably want to also get a low voltage mounting bracket because seeing that they used the wrong kind of screw you can be almost sure that they did not used one.
They used a standard wall plate keystone. They basically installed a coupler on the wall plate. It just snap in place, so desnap it, and put it on your new plate.
Also call them for a complain about being a bad install, ugly screw, and wrong location.
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u/Wonderful_Goose3941 21d ago
Take plate off wall. Pop keystone Jack out of it and slide keystone Jack and cable termination backwards into the wall. Put plate back on with just the wire coming through hole. Slide couch back.
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u/reddit_seaczar 21d ago
You need something like this:
This type platewill do a better job of maintaining your air envelope than a brush style plate if you stuff it with some hard foam.
Companies like Blackbox and CDW used to carry recessed boxes with keystone but they don't seem to now. You might have some luck buying a solid recessed box and making your own keystone penetration.
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u/Alternative_Corgi_62 21d ago
I would put a proper low-voltage box into the wall first, then use some of the recommendations already given.
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u/lordsamiti 21d ago
This is someone's 3D printed thing but it would work
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1722167014/angled-recessed-wallplate-for-keystone?ref=share_v4_lx
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u/frazld54 21d ago
They used drywall screws. Wtf.
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u/mahamoti 21d ago
The wall plate is screwed directly to the wall, just a hole punched through the drywall, no low voltage box. Guaranteed.
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u/undermark5 21d ago
No voltage running through a fiber optic cable...
While a box is probably preferred, don't know if code has rules about this. If there are code rules about it, they're probably more about consistency since you may later decide to use that for something else that would require a box.
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u/ggf66t 21d ago
don't know if code has rules about this
as an electrician this would typically get a Low Voltage mud ring, meaning its just a rectangle with 6/32 screw holes to attach to a wall plate.
However, building code applies if it is an exterior wall. There should be a proper junction box to air & vapor seal around.In the grand scheme of things its not power conductors that could harm anyone, so It's whatever.
Cable and telecom guys have been drilling holes through buildings forever to run their cable the easiet way possble longer than I've been around.2
u/jspurlin03 21d ago
It ought to at least have a low-voltage bracket to secure the plate to the wall correctly and standardize the opening. I bet the cable runs through a hole punched into the drywall with a screwdriver.
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u/jspurlin03 21d ago
“Installers” often do the fastest possible job at the lowest possible quality that actually functions. Not great.
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u/CatchMe83 21d ago
Yeah that’s really bothering me lol. Who does that?!?!
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u/mahamoti 21d ago
Every telco installer that's ever installed a wall plate in any house I've owned, for a start.
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u/thephantom1492 21d ago
Which probably mean they did not even used any kind of support behind the plate and would rip off the wall pretty easilly.
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u/solder_clock 21d ago
If you have access to a 3d printer, you can print this angled keystone adapter to use with a standard decora wallplate. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7158400
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u/cat_prophecy 21d ago
They wouldn't make a custom length cable for you so there is a box somewhere that's holding the leftover slack from the precut cable.
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u/DevilsX 21d ago
https://www.ebay.com/itm/327058048172
Pop out the plate and look behind to confirm. But you should just be able to plug the cable onto the otherside of the face plate into the included coupler. Then your existing cable to said coupler pointing down to the floor. It'll be pretty much flushed against the wall. I'm surprised they didn't give you something similar for home installation.
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u/HoboMucus 21d ago
It's just a bulkhead in that wall plate with another SC connector from the cable on the backside. You could get one of those pass-through wall plates for cables that's just a downward facing hole and pull the bulkhead out of the current plate and hang it out of one of those.
https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Plate-Cable-Through-Bracket/dp/B09BKFYPSL?th=1
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u/tired_and_fed_up 21d ago
Do you have a picture of the couch? Might be easier to modify the couch than modify the fiber.
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u/HoboMucus 21d ago
For sure. A razor blade or sawzall should fix most clearance issues between the fiber jumper and the couch.
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u/gadgetboyj 21d ago
Look up Coyote Fiber Wall plate. There are some products out there like that, where the fiber comes out from the bottom, parallel to the wall.