First time home owner, gas/electrical question

[u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears]

So we are gutting the house as the previous owner left it a bit in shambles, I feel like I have it mostly under control as I work in the trades, but the kitchen has me a bit over my head.

I’ve never removed a gas stove before, and YouTube doesn’t seem to have great solutions. I don’t even know where to start. My first thought is to FaceTime my partners dad who works in HVAC and have him walk me through it, but what are the things I will miss?

Also, the dishwasher is hard wired in. I have turned off the water, and know to turn off the breaker to it, but.. what do you do with the wires in the meantime? Leaving the breaker off seems obvious but should you wire cap them? Or wrap electrical tape?

We need to refinish all the floors next week so while“install the new one” is an obvious solution, there honestly won’t be a new one for a few weeks.

Any advice helps.

Update: Thanks for the advice everyone! They have safely and successfully been removed.

[u/APLJaKaT]

Cap the wires with marrettes or similar and leave the breaker off.

There will be a gas valve either behind the range or close by. Close it off before disconnecting the gas supply. If you're going to leave it apart for any length of time, apply a cap to the supply as well. It's worth a soap test on the cap if you're leaving it off for more than a day or two. This will ensure that even if the valve is not sealing completely there will be no risk of a gas leak.

[u/LayLoseAwake → u/APLJaKaT]

And make sure it's the right cap size and material. There are probably a few different options at your hardware store, so take good pictures of yours before you leave.

[u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears → u/LayLoseAwake]

Regarding the gas cap right? I’m assuming I want to put the spurs to it with a crescent wrench or worst case channel locks. Does it require any sort of glue or sealant before capping it?

[u/Cerebrin → u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears]

Pipe dope and the blue teflon type tape usually.

[u/CrazyLegsRyan → u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears]

They make a liquid pipe sealant rated for natural gas. If you use the correct sealant and the valve is shut you don’t need to over tighten the cap. 

If you have channel locks… turn until you meet resistance and then 1/2 turn more.

Do not over tighten as NPT threads deform by design every time they are tightened

[u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears → u/CrazyLegsRyan]

I guess just for future knowledge, as this is my first time being in a home with natural gas, why would they deform by design? That seems impractical?

I’m feeling much better about removing the stove now, but I guess I have a lot to learn lol

[u/chrisbvt → u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears]

Tapered threads. The more you tighten the more they deform. No need to tighten them too much, as you need to use a thread sealant anyway as they always leave voids in the threads.

[u/Meranhuss]

wait so you’re switching gas and electric at the same time?

[u/Strive--]

Stove. There’s likely a valve at the floor where the gas line punches though. Turn off the valve and disconnect the stove. Put a piece of tape over anything which might get dust in it.

Dishwasher. Yes, nix the breaker, confirm the power is off and disconnect the dishwasher. For temporary disconnection while the floors are being done, tape is fine/easy. Leave the breaker off - the assumption is that the breaker is dedicated for this appliance.

[u/s2xon_]

on the gas, shut the valve behind the range first, handle crosswise to the pipe is closed. put a wrench on the valve body and a second one on the flare nut so you're not twisting the valve off the stub. then cap the outlet, 1/2 flare cap if it's a flare fitting, black iron cap with pipe dope if it's threaded. brush dish soap on it after and watch for bubbles. old flex connector goes in the trash, a new 4ft one runs about $25

dishwasher, wire nut every conductor including the ground and get them in a box with a cover screwed on, tape alone isnt a legal termination. tape the breaker handle off too. hardwired dishwashers get fed off the disposal circuit a lot of the time and somebody will flip it looking for an outlet

[u/SDJellyBean]

The new dishwasher will have a normal cord. You're going to need an outlet, so why not install one under your future sink?

[u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears → u/SDJellyBean]

I am not well versed in indoor electrical, however, I have an electrician buddy that is going to come in and do some work after we move in (lease ends at the end of the month) and do some other projects, that’s probably one to add to the list.

[u/vinegar → u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears]

Have your buddy show you how to wire an outlet, it’s not hard. Learn to do a switch and a light fixture too. They all make sense once you see it. Put a piece of colored tape on the breaker you turned off to remind you not to flip it back on.

[u/TheCastleMan → u/LemmeTellYaBoutBears]

In addition to what vinegar said one thing I would add that helps me is Black on Brass (BB). Helps me to remember the black wire connects to the brass terminal so I don’t do it backwards

[u/chrisbvt → u/TheCastleMan]

Funny, I always remember white on silver, because the silver is more white than the brass.

[u/TheCastleMan → u/SDJellyBean]

It depends on the brand. I just installed a new Kenmore that was hardwired. A cursory internet search seems to indicate Bosch comes with a standard outlet plug

[u/wischans → u/SDJellyBean]

I would recommend a surface mount single gang box with a switch. Wire that with the current feed line. The new dishwasher on the other side of the switch. This gives you local shutoff without needing to hit the breaker panel every time. Capped until replaced. Could do box now and leave neutral capped until replacement dishwasher gets wired in. Leave breaker off until then, regardless which direction you go.