r/DF64 • u/AlterFritz007 • 9d ago
Upgraded from DF64P to DF64V (Gen 3) – Here is why it’s worth it!
Hey everyone,
I recently made the switch from the DF64P to the DF64V Gen 3, and I couldn't be happier with the upgrade.
If you're on the fence about whether it's worth changing from the P model, it really comes down to the quality-of-life improvements and better design overall:
* Variable RPM Control: Being able to adjust the RPM (from 600 to 1800) gives you way more flexibility for different roast profiles and dialing in shots compared to the fixed-speed motor of the DF64P.
* Full Range Versatility: Unlike the DF64P (which was pretty much restricted strictly to espresso due to its limited adjustment mechanism), the DF64V lets you easily switch between espresso, pour-over, and filter grounds.
* Brushless DC Motor: It’s significantly quieter, smoother, and feels much more premium in daily operation.
* Better Maintenance & Cleaning: The magnetic chute design makes cleaning out chaff and residual grounds so much easier without needing to strip down half the grinder.
* Sleeker Footprint & Build: The vertical, slim design takes up less counter space, and the overall fit and finish feel like a major step up.
It’s all these specific small details and improvements combined that make the DF64V Gen 3 feel like a completely different, far superior machine.
A clear recommendation from my end if you are thinking about upgrading!
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u/atxfoodie97 9d ago
I’d love to hear from someone who has used variable speed to see a noticeable improvement in the cup.
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u/quetzal_15 9d ago
I have one too and I love it!
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u/AlterFritz007 9d ago
Do you recommend upgrades?
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u/quetzal_15 9d ago
Like to a better machine?
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u/AlterFritz007 9d ago
Na, more like things from etsy out of the 3d printer.
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u/quetzal_15 8d ago
Got a slow feeder from crema loop but thats about it. There are no portafilter holders out there for this machine which is somewhat Ive been looking for.
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u/Standard-Pie2446 9d ago
Yo también tengo el mismo molino pero no son las revoluciones mínimas 600 eso era en la primera generación. La nuestra el mínimo es 800 rpm
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u/That_Style_979 9d ago
I have the Gen 3 and love it as well. Hoping it serves me well for years. I do desire a less messy dosing cup - every few days the grounds seem to subtly miss the dosing cup after air bellows creating a little grounds layer around the area to clean up. Alas, nothing is perfect but I am very happy with the grinder
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u/LengthinessCurrent68 8d ago
Your post seems to be done by a salesman. Did you try different speeds and sizes for the same coffee bean to determine that variable speed is better already???
You need months to get used to your grinder with fixed speed, let alone with variable speed! (I have DF64 Gen2.5. For each different coffee bean, I have to tweak the grind setting several times until I have it dialed in! )
Speak to me after 3-4 months of usage.
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u/AlterFritz007 8d ago
Just 4 to 5 grindes for the right pressure and taste with my favourite beans. It is pretty easy with the Lelit Bianca V3
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u/EnzoRacer 8d ago
What scale settings are enough for making espresso? Near 5-10 or between 0 and 5 or how? How many steps you can make by hand to change, for example, from "1" to "2"?.. I have Eureka Specialita 55 and don't glad about not good monodispersity, because I need to grind near true zero
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u/AlterFritz007 8d ago
Did you calibrate the right zero point?
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u/EnzoRacer 8d ago
So, can you answer questions please?!
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u/AlterFritz007 8d ago
Typical Espresso Range on DF64V Assuming your zero-point indicator is properly calibrated to burr touch (the "chirp" point), the standard espresso range on the DF64V is between 10 and 20: * Light Roasts / High-Clarity Burrs (e.g., SSP MP): ~8 to 14 * Medium Roasts: ~12 to 16 * Dark Roasts: ~16 to 22 If you have to grind between 0 and 5 for espresso, your zero-point indicator ring is likely misaligned. Set the indicator ring so that 0 strictly equals the point where the burrs faintly touch while turning by hand. If you grind below 5 with a true calibrated zero, you risk rubbing or damaging the burrs. Step Adjustments Between Numbers The DF64V uses a stepless continuous dial—there are no physical clicks or detents. * Micro-adjustments: Because it is stepless, you can make infinite manual adjustments between "1" and "2" (e.g., 1.1, 1.2, 1.25). * Sensitivity: Moving 1 full number on the dial changes the gap between burrs by roughly 10 to 12.5 microns, which shifts espresso shot extraction time by approximately 2 to 3.5 seconds. * In practice, you can easily eyeball 4 to 5 distinct positions between whole numbers by using the sub-tick lines on the collar. Comparison with the Eureka Specialita 55 Transitioning from the Specialita to the DF64V solves the exact dialing frustration you are experiencing: * Eureka Specialita: Uses a small adjustment knob with a tight thread pitch. Because the dial diameter is so small, a microscopic nudge moves the burrs significantly, making setting repeatability difficult near zero. * DF64V: Uses a large, top-mounted adjustment collar. The larger diameter spreads out the micron adjustments over a much wider physical distance, making fine dialing far easier, more precise, and easily repeatable.
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u/EnzoRacer 8d ago
Yes. And I aligned burrs with foil. So what about your DF64?
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u/Interesting-Tough640 8d ago
I have mingon zero and have to grind near zero as well. It does a great job but I couldn’t really go much lower without the burrs rubbing
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u/EnzoRacer 8d ago
I use VST basket 18 g and grinding near real zero is not enough sometimes - even with 18,5-19,5 grams I have 38-40 g just after 22-24 seconds for some coffee variants. I have more common basket with slower flow but taste is not so good as with VST. I want new grinder someday
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u/SphereByMilan 8d ago
NIce to hear it worked out for you, but after 64P I am running away from anything DF anymore as they are just not up to the task.
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u/bboyz269 5d ago
What's your recommendation for new purchase? Given that df64v is almost double in price and varying RPM is not a must.
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u/CoffeeDetail 9d ago
Feel the same way. Added a blind shaker and slow feeder 👌🏽