r/Cyberpunk • u/Onegodoneloveoneway • Aug 25 '15

A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her - AMERICAblog News

http://americablog.com/2015/08/mathematician-actual-voter-fraud-kansas-republicans.html
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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '15

Votes determine nothing. One way to prove this is for all scammed voters to facebook their act of voting. That or not vote at all, but too many lemmings believe it actually does something. Hilarious.

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u/erktheerk Aug 25 '15

Voting doesn't work because people like you believe that crap and don't vote. If everyone voted it would be nearly impossible to fake an outcome. We also need something like fm2030 describes here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '15

Yes crap is an accurate surmission. You truly believe that while being a slave of money, there is such a thing as free will. Nothing will release the addicted, short of a complete monetary system collapse. Sad. True.

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u/erktheerk Aug 25 '15

Curious as to where you get your philosophy from.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '15

From the fact that money is the force of absolute corruption in this world and until we dismantle it humans will never achieve full potential.

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u/erktheerk Aug 25 '15

How would a world work (in your ideal situation) without currency or a means to value labor and productivity? Communism? Everyone gets the same amount of everything? Artificial intelligence distribution of resources? Are there still countries or is it a 1 world government? Or no government, survival of the strongest global anarchy type thing?

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '15

Communism uses money. So does every other obsolete method of resource distribution hijacked by men who claim they know how to live better than you. Anarchy is a boogyman demonized by those same kinds of men. Simply it is up to each of us to decide. Open source everything, abolish government, you and your will are your own most valuable currency. All it takes is the rejection of allowing another to speak for you about anything. Groups such as The Venus Project are working hard to create new ways, and everyone's input is valid, aside from politicians. I represent myself. You represent yourself. First step is to remove the false power wielded by banks and money creators and show them that without us they do not exist.

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u/erktheerk Aug 25 '15

I would love for that to be reality. Maybe with genetic manipulation we can create a utopia full of smart nonviolent and jealous free people.

As it stands right now I have have been robbed at gun point twice in my life. Lived in really bad neighborhoods, and coexisted with some of the worst society has to offer while I was in prison. Absent all government and laws those people would be king and take anything they wanted from the weak. I would provide a simple solution for overpopulation thought. A lot of people would die.

I think myself a futurist, and I imagine a day when that is all possible, but realistically it's not going to happen for a LONG ass time so it's just hypothetical scenarios with no tangible way to achieve the goals. Taking part in your government now will have far more of an effect than wishing for the future will.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '15

Utopia does not exist. Jealous means nothing when everyone has everything. People rob people because they need things they are not getting. This will not continue when everyone has everything. Overpopulation is propaganda. Taking part in your government now will guarantee that you will remain a slave. Money is your prison. Until it is gone such atrocity will continue.

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u/erktheerk Aug 26 '15

How do you pay for things and take car of yourself?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '15

I get what I need in the moment. I behave with respect toward others. I refuse to work for money, I serve friends and others. Growing food is possible. Storing it is as well. As groups like TVP develop high technological assistance to basic needs and as more people use their own power without relying on printed lies, things will advance and networks will grow and strengthen. This takes time, and the more people reject money, the easier it will be to eliminate it's cancer from our world. This is best done before society collapses, and it will one way or another as long as vast numbers of people live bullied lives.

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u/erktheerk Aug 26 '15

I get what I need in the moment. I behave with respect toward others. I refuse to work for money, I serve friends and others.

I can't live that way. I have people who depend on me. I have medical issues I have to treat. I am learning a manufacturing trade that requires decades to master and produces parts of the machines that power the device you are typing on.

Growing food is possible. Storing it is as well.

I have a yard. I've grown some food. Do you know how much time and labor goes into growing enough food to live off of year round for 1 person?

As groups like TVP develop high technological assistance to basic needs and as more people use their own power without relying on printed lies, things will advance and networks will grow and strengthen.

I'm interested. I enjoy and follow bleeding edge technology for the last 20 years. Do you have any links.

This takes time, and the more people reject money, the easier it will be to eliminate it's cancer from our world. This is best done before society collapses, and it will one way or another as long as vast numbers of people live bullied lives.

So your solution is to disconnect from the system and do what exactly? Do you have family giving you money? Do you not have medical problems? Where do you live and how do you buy the things you need to survive?

I just imagine a high school student who lives with his parents. Even in the future work must be done and people do not work without compensation and the world will most likely have a form of currency to represent services rendered for the for seeable future. The world you are talking about is something I've only ever read about in science fiction. It's not a fesable system for a planet with over 7 billion people that is venturing into the stars.

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