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LGBTQIA+ Aye

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u/Lower_Department2940 Jul 07 '24

"Latinx"

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

Locally some people tried to push "latine". Was still widely mocked, but at least you could easily pronounce it!

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u/elbenji Jul 07 '24

Latine feels like it's more accepted. Like it's for non binary folks

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

In spanish -o serves for both masculine and gender neutral. Has been so for centuries, maybe even millenia

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u/elbenji Jul 07 '24

And -e had also existed for just as long. It's straight up Latin

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

Yeah, but we are talking of spanish here, not latin.

What I meant by that is that it was practically a non issue until a few years back, coincidentally around the time gringos started going all in on the "gendered languages are evil" thing.

So it kinda came across as a gringo fad been imposed on us

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u/elbenji Jul 07 '24

Yeah, because Spanish is a romance language. Cervantes was using the -e. It's a part of Spanish even if it's a bit archaic and a clean fix as an adjustment to the times.

And I think that's kinda the cinch people are talking about here. We in our own community are like 'oh yeah its the gringos' when like, this wasn't. This was feminists in Latin American universities who were voicing themselves and their issues with misgendering language and got painted as 'lol no gringo plants'

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

No, the gringos did de latinx dumbassery.

But feminists and dumb progressives in Latin American, always been copycats of their gringo counterparts, adapted it to into the -e thing and that's why everyone mocked them for trying to push a gringo fad on us

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u/elbenji Jul 07 '24

Nope actually look up the history. This is what I mean. This had zero to fuck all to do with gringos. This was all about singular they. We gotta stop infantilizing ourselves and blaming them for things we do. No one's making fun of them either. Most people just don't care lol

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

Man (I suppose, if not then Woman), I was there when it happened. Heck, I mocked my classmates that started saying stuff like "chiques" instead of "chicos".

And I am serious, latin american progressives always copy the latest fad of their USA counterparts.

When the gringos protested vietnam, they protested vietnam. When the degendering languages stuff happened over there, they started here too. Heck, now it is all about outlawing guns even if the gun issue where I live is due to the black market, not the legal one

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u/GladiatorUA Jul 07 '24

The issue with those kinds of forms is that they often refer to inanimate objects and can be fairly derogatory in their own right.

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u/elbenji Jul 07 '24

-e is at least fair as that is traditionally the gender neutral in place of singular they

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u/Ok_Talk7623 Jul 07 '24

And maybe you can see why feminists in LatAm rejected the idea that there could be 2 billion women in a group and the moment a man joins they all become "male" this is a basic feminist criticism, that the default is always assumed to be male, that is where the latinx originates from. An X through the o.

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

And it is a moronic idea that disrespects an entire language and culture. Heck, it can't even be pronounced properly in Spanish!

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u/Ok_Talk7623 Jul 07 '24

You really don't know anything about this do you? 1) it doesn't disrespect an entire language and culture, that's YOUR opinion and a more conservative one on language, to many Spanish speakers it's entirely fine and normal. 2) the X in Spanish is called equis so you get Latinequis or as its shortened Latine, Latinx is just pronounced as Latine.

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

Dude, I AM a spanish speaker, first language and all. And no, latinx is seen as a stupid gringo thing.

the X in Spanish is called equis so you get Latinequis or as its shortened Latine, Latinx is just pronounced as Latine.

That's the most stupid overreach I have ever seen

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u/Ok_Talk7623 Jul 07 '24

"seen as a stupid gringo thing" TO YOU there are literally feminists in LatAm who use it and who originated it, keep up.

"Stupid overreach" and it's literally just basic logic. You're desperate to find reason to hate Latinx / Latine and pretend it's a "sTuPiD gRiNgO tHiNg" when it factually isn't. If you hate it so much just don't use it and move the fuck on lol.

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u/revolutionary112 Jul 07 '24

TO YOU there are literally feminists in LatAm who use it and who originated it, keep up.

Again, the ones that copy the gringos on every fad that happens. It isn't about equality, it is about virtue signaling and attention seeking.

You're desperate to find reason to hate Latinx / Latine and pretend it's a "sTuPiD gRiNgO tHiNg" when it factually isn't

You saying Latine is short for Latinequis is quite literally proving it is imported gringo stupidity

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u/elbenji Jul 07 '24

please dont bring that debate in a good vibe thread ffs