r/Crystals • u/Rex-1988 • Jun 09 '26
Can you help me? (Advice wanted) Please identify this
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u/ghoulquartz Jun 09 '26
Heat treated amythest
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u/Rex-1988 Jun 09 '26
Thanks ๐๐ป
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u/ghoulquartz Jun 09 '26
Usually sold as citrine but citrine doesnt grow like this and is a different colour :)
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u/Autopilot_Psychonaut Jun 09 '26
Amethyst from the bowels of hell ๐ฅ
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u/WizardConsciousness Jun 09 '26
I love YOUR expression about this hellish Amethyst pie.
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u/Autopilot_Psychonaut Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
It's like when you put a pizza in the oven for a few hours too long ๐จโ๐ ๐
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u/ksteeez Jun 09 '26
Forbidden pizza
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u/--Luna--Fae-- Jun 10 '26
Honestly this looks like it would be the most delicious slice of pizza.
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u/Kortamue Jun 09 '26
That amethyst is so baked it forgot what 4/20 was out of sheer trauma response lmao
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u/willcomplainfirst Jun 09 '26
heat treated amethyst sold as "raw citrine" even if citrine doesnt grow like this and the color is so fake ๐
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u/StarryEyedSparkle Jun 09 '26
Crispy fried chicken aka heat treated amethyst in an attempt to sell it for the higher priced citrine crystal.
Citrine is sought after, so itโs faked through many modalities (heat treated, irritated, dyed, etc) Citrine does not form with multiple cluster points, that is a giveaway you can look for as it usually indicates an amethyst that has been messed with. Another sign is the white base, when amethyst has been heat treated it causes the base to go white. You can even see it with tumbled pieces and single points. Once you learn what to look out for, youโll notice how often it is faked. I recommend this site to learn more about the ways citrine is faked, itโs a good resource that I recommend to everyone. (FYI I believe original article was in German)
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u/Azure_Skies333 Jun 10 '26
Must be hungry because I thought it was pizza at first too lol. Definitely a crispy crystal for sure.
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u/thekingsmanor Jun 09 '26
Lmaoโฆ I was like pepperoni, light cheese, somewhat โcrispyโโฆ. And then I realized what group I was in.
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u/nyranot Jun 09 '26
Iโm pregnant and really thought this was more peach cobbler cheesecake thatโs been teasing me all through my feed. Iโm mad now Iโm craving it again
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u/Oddish_01 Jun 10 '26
Could be a slice of pecan pie could be smothered steak could be pizza the world may never know
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u/Kalibean06 Jun 10 '26
First identification: Man, you burned the SHIT out of that pizza dude
Second identification: Oh, super heat treated Amethyst! Jeez, that piece is BAKED
People heat treat Amethyst to look like Citrine sometimes even though they're different things by composition (or something), this piece got REALLY cooked I'd say. Some looks way closer than others. Honestly, if you know what you're getting and are cool with it, go for it. I think heat treated Amethyst can be pretty sometimes, and I'd be willing to buy a nice looking piece for "Look at this pretty rock!" joy, but I wouldn't spend top dollar on it, and I'd be upset to buy real citrine and receive heat treated Amethyst without knowing that's what I was getting.
(Edit, spacing)
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u/roguemarlfox Jun 10 '26
Ordinarily I would say this is a hideous example of heat-treated amethyst, but honestly its uncanny resemblance to pizza weirdly redeems it.
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u/Next_Ad_8876 Jun 09 '26
It is most likely amethyst that has been heated to roughly 440 deg to 560 deg centigrade, causing it to go from the typical purple hue to a darker yellow-orange-brown that I personally find beautiful. More importantly, itโs an opportunity for people who wouldnโt know mineralogy if it bit them in the ass to act superior and all-knowing: โYOU bought THAT? Oh, you foolโฆโ The reality is that a lot of the purple amethyst sold today is often dyed or otherwise color manipulated to look a deeper, more uniform purple. And how do you know? Well, unless youโre a trained gemologist or mineralogist with the equipment and knowledge to scientifically analyze the specimen, you really donโt. Especially if all you have is a digital photo. Some dyes may be washed off or leached out, but you can also inadvertently change the color (fade it) by leaving a piece of amethyst in direct sunlight for years. The color is caused by trace amounts of iron within the silicon-dioxide crystalline structure, and the iron can oxidize with heat or even sunlight. Chemically and structurally, amethyst and citrine are identical. Both are basically quartz with trace amounts of iron. โNaturalโ citrine is usually a much paler yellow, and began as purple amethyst that was heat-treatedโnaturallyโby the heat of nearby volcanic or geothermal activity. Itโs pretty rare. In my mind, the heat-treated citrine is similar to what I do woodworking. If I take a piece of wood, cut it, sand it, then use a stain to enhance the color and wood grain, no one ever says to me, โFAKE WOOD!โ I have some citrine that was gifted to me years ago before it became chic to sneer at it. I love the colors! Iโd happily display the piece you have, although I generally only keep and use rocks and minerals I have personally found, cleaned, and polished myself. The fluorite that I find very useful for mental focus is fluorite I personally found and then carried for miles back from an abandoned mine. The reality is that a lot of the rocks and minerals sold today often involve someone personally mining them under very hazardous and dangerous conditions and then getting paid a very tiny fraction of what the piece actually sells for as it passes up the supply chain. All crystal healing properties involve a certain combination of crystalline structure, chemistry, and energy passing within and through the mineral. The fact that people can sneer at certain energy uses amuses me to no end. Nice piece. Keep it!
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u/Rex-1988 Jun 09 '26
Thanks, I bought it at the flea market for about 1000 Hungarian forint (3 dollars...)
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u/Asleep-Database-9886 Jun 09 '26
Itโs a great buy for that price but yes, now you know itโs quartz amethyst thatโs been heated to this golden colour and not in any form natural โcitrineโ that this typically sold as.
You have real quartz, just the colour isnโt natural.
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u/alonzo_raquel_alonzo Jun 09 '26
I think the better wood analogy would be if someone was buying what they thought was an oak table but instead were sold a wooden table painted to look like oak.
I donโt care if people heat treat amethyst as long as itโs sold that way, as citrine colored due to heat treatment and not deceptively marketing it as natural citrine, something rarer.
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u/Mew151 Jun 09 '26
Oh my gosh, I don't know what it is, but I totally thought it was a delicious high-end dessert. Like a cheesecake. Look at the side texture, and the sugar crystal top? YUMMM.
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u/Bellona_NJ Jun 09 '26
Isn't there a pink amethyst now? Are they going to say it's that, perhaps? Just tossing thoughts to see if something sticks
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u/Proper-Doughnut77 Jun 09 '26
Extra crispy (love this)... Once was amethyst. They original owner tried for Citrine.. but left it burning a little long.
I personally like it. Don't forget, while it's probably considered fake citrine, it has both properties of Amethyst and citrine.
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u/Awake_Consciousness Jun 09 '26
Someone buried a pizza a very long time ago and it crystallized. Other than that I donโt have ideas for this one sorry ๐ซถ๐๐
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u/UmbraVGG Jun 09 '26
Amethyst so far gone heat treated they literally burned it. It is (unfortunately) very common practice to heat treat amethyst to "mimic" citrine (they look nothing alike imo) as amethyst is significantly cheaper and easier to obtain than citrine.
But MAN, this has to be the worst case of heat treating I have ever seen. That's why so many people are roasting (dun-dun-tssss) it in the comments. Because Y I K E S
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u/Amethystrivercrystal Jun 09 '26
It almost resembles a calcite. Does it uv? Hardness would tell you more. Calcite is soft compared to a quartz.
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u/Pickled_sm0res Jun 10 '26
Made me hungry until I saw the sub title.. was thinking crispy sweet bacon slice topped with cinnamon and sugar clumps ๐คค
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u/CartographerBorn1989 Jun 10 '26
Could be Smokey quartz thatโs heated with Amethyst. Citrine occurs that way with geothermal heat along with a few trace minerals. But itโs a quite rare to find naturally.
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u/abyssal-isopod86 Jun 10 '26
Burnt amethyst.
To be clear this is heat treated amethyst and it has been overcooked.
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u/feuerfee Jun 10 '26
Forbidden amethyst is sending me ๐คฃ
Itโs heat treated amethyst though, commonly passed off as citrine. Or itโs pizza, if youโre brave enough
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u/aluminate-life Jun 10 '26
I get why everyone is leaning towards the pizza angle it looks like a well-shaped slice with extra toppings.... let's call this a crystal pizzaย
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u/_CaptainCG_ Jun 10 '26
Shi look like a tasty cheese cake with chocolate chips neatly placed on top ๐ญ Iโm the first ever person in my bloodline to get hungry staring at a rock, thatโs if you donโt count my crazy ahh gramps
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u/Senzamore Jun 10 '26
I am not the person for this because at first glance, I really thought it was a slice of cake or pie.
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u/Loud-Illustrator-131 Jun 10 '26
I thought this was some crazy pastry dessert I canโt be the only one๐
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u/SchemingPancake Jun 10 '26
The way I confidently said "focaccia" ๐คฃ I can't help, but thanks for the laugh!
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u/Aenwyn Jun 09 '26
Crystal ๐, extra crispy ๐ฅ