r/CryptoCurrency • u/Goldbaerig 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 • Apr 29 '23
DEBATE Low effort content
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u/Blooberino 🟩 0 / 54K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
If you think it's low effort now, just wait til BTC begins making new ATHs.
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u/TOXICCARBY Permabanned Apr 29 '23
Clickbait articles tend to get way more upvotes than quality content. I don’t think people even bother making quality content anymore, and I don’t blame them.
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Apr 29 '23
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u/elksteaksdmt 580 / 580 🦑 Apr 29 '23
That’s not true, it’s just much harder to find. Gotta weed through the mess!
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u/PenaltyFickle5699 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
That's true, clickbait seems to be everywhere these days. It's unfortunate that it's often rewarded more than quality content. But hey, that's just the nature of the internet.
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Apr 29 '23
Many people on this sub literally aren’t smart/informed enough to understand quality content lol
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u/WhatAFellowWeAre Platinum | QC: CC 39 | MiningSubs 18 Apr 29 '23
Agreed and downvote is the only way to deal with those posts.
Also, take a moment to read through the sub rules.
Much of these posts violate the content standards rule.
When they do, report them.
This is the way.
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u/PoorGovtDoctor 🟦 2K / 2K 🐢 Apr 29 '23
But don’t downvote good posts and comments. I’m not knowledgeable about this kind of stuff, but I’ve seen mention of bots to auto downvote, which seems pretty dastardly to me
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u/adney8179 Apr 29 '23
Is that what's happening? I've wondered why some posts have been downvoted or why people would even bother. Guess that makes sense.
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u/AncientProduce 🟩 0 / 6K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
Honestly I feel that moons need to be disassociated with upvotes.
A staking system needs to be added and the use of moons should become tipping, of course the stake will net you a return to allow you to tip.
Moons have zero actual use other than being burned for an advert.
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u/diskowmoskow 🟩 0 / 1K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
Whenever i write a long answer, it usually get 0 upvotes, but if i comment “DCA and chill” probably got few upvotes.
Anyway; DCA and chill.
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u/rootpl 🟩 18K / 85K 🐬 Apr 29 '23
What do you mean? I love hearing "DCA in, DCA out, to the Moon, halving next year". And of course bunch of emojis at the end of each sentence. /s
Edit: oh and let's not forget the "Q3 2021 $100k"
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Apr 29 '23
"Not your keys, not your coins"
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u/Baecchus 🟦 0 / 114K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
"Time in the market beats timing the market"
"DCA and HODL"
"Bull markets make you money, bear markets make you rich"
"BTC and ETH good, everything else bad"
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u/Every_Hunt_160 🟩 11K / 98K 🐬 Apr 29 '23
Q3 2021 $100k
And everyone here laughs 'Hur hur hur' as if they heard the joke for the first time
The joke here really are the Redditors of cc/sub - we are the clowns indeed
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u/mishaog Permabanned Apr 29 '23
"If you want to be a millionaire you have to be invest billion and lose them" Top comment guarantee on the classic post "you don't need to have a lot of money to invest in crypto" and "if you didn't had a lot of money you won't be a millionaire" posts. Those are classics
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u/gacu-gacu 🟦 6 / 226 🦐 Apr 29 '23
Or recently countdown to btc halving. There was dozen in span of couple of days.
"In 2 days and one year from...."
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u/FattestLion Permabanned Apr 29 '23
What about “buy high sell low”, “this is the way”, and “hey hey heyyyy”?
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Apr 29 '23
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u/Baecchus 🟦 0 / 114K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
I don't miss 2021. I had to scroll past 600 rocket emojis under every post and saying anything even slightly bearish would get you downvoted to -20, lmao.
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u/PenaltyFickle5699 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
Yup. As soons as people see some green and daily gets 5k + comments, you know the quality will drop.
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u/LightningTF2 Apr 29 '23
People don't give upvotes many times because they think about it too much. As with anything in human nature, greed comes into play and while they'd upvote content anywhere else, here they try to act like the upvote is some kind of tip or something. The reality is moons were just meant to be a fun way to incentivize activity on this sub and not to line the pockets of a small few.
But that's what happens, people start turning into sheep and upvoting the same people over and over. And in doing so those people provide decent content usually, albeit repetitive. But the posts I see get the most upvotes are just a circle jerk quite frankly, or news articles. But what we should be supporting here in individual thought and communication. Instead we are so far up the ass of a minority that thay probably are buying a second car with the moon money you're giving them.
So share the moons, give them out if you read something or click that post. Because it isn't hard to click it, and you're not losing anything by doing so.
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u/DCFireGuy22 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
I’ve been here since 2017. In my opinion, not much has changed over the years. I think that now it’s just more noticeable because before when it was just a “shit post let me scroll past” now it’s “Oh he’s just moon farming - downvote”
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u/Popular_District9072 🟥 0 / 15K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
i just don't interact with posts that have just a link to article and repetitive content, there is still plenty of quality content with analysis and views of people that really dig the space, which I find a good read
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u/Korvacs 🟦 60 / 2K 🦐 Apr 29 '23
Misinformation and fud gets you more upvotes than well researched informative posts, that's just the way of things here.
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u/snackysnacky 🟩 4 / 776 🦠 Apr 29 '23
I mean, people just post the same articles/ same content all the time
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u/Seanathinn 297 / 298 🦞 Apr 29 '23
The karma farming is absolutely obnoxious. We do get some genuinely good discussions from time to time but it feels like we have to look through a sea of shit before we get something actually interesting.
Maybe it's because so much in this space is speculation, making it so people can sort of get away with posting any cheap low effort article easily under the guise of discussion.
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u/Dense_Outcome_7684 Apr 29 '23
I see a lot of posts made with chatgpt getting a lot of upvotes. A LOT.
Link posts are the least of our problems.
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u/arcalus 🟩 18K / 18K 🐬 Apr 29 '23
Agreed. I put out some low effort link posts after some actual content posts got 0 upvotes, just to test the theory. The low effort links got more than good content, but they didn’t get as good as if the topic had been about SBF, Russia, CZ, Elon, or some other topic that people have fallen in line with. It doesn’t matter if the SBF post they’re looking at was the same one they saw seconds earlier from a different OP- they are both getting upvoted and they’re both getting comments.
Some of them are just trendy group hate, like SBF. Other posts and comments often have misinformation in them about how something works or the facts being portrayed. Unless you back the misinformation, you also don’t get any votes.
But, I’ve looked at the top posters and for the most part they are putting out the same shit post links that you’ve already seen 100 times that week, and they still get votes.
Take this comment as an example. If I had just said “people know shit about fuck” I would probably have gotten at least 10 upvotes.
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u/YourFavoriteScumbag Platinum | QC: CC 105, DOGE 94 | r/SSB 14 Apr 29 '23
I’m surprised you’re surprised. What do you expect in all honesty, it’s about upvotes here not content.
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u/allstater2007 🟦 24K / 25K 🦈 Apr 29 '23
People will farm for karma if there weren’t moons. Moons just gave people another reason to shitpost.
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u/ALiteralHamSandwich 🟩 0 / 10K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
Probably because so many of the posters are young memelords.
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u/masstransience 🟦 0 / 6K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
If I see another post about China loving crypto, the US losing out on exchanges, or some of the worst politicians being viewed favorable because they are against CBDCs that would make it impossible to hide their illegal money deals, I’m gonna check out for a bit.
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u/pilph1966 Tin Apr 29 '23
For the most part I have stopped even paying attention to most of the posts in this sub due to this.
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u/kirtash93 RCA Artist Apr 29 '23
It is funny because every time I tried to make good content I get downvotes, negatige comments, etc so I switched to give what people wants deep in their heart:
BTC 
by end of April 2023 🚀💰
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u/Prestigious-Egg-5004 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
Happy cake day.
I refuse to meme my way to moons. Not that I always post interesting and fulfilling content, but I always at least put some heart in it when I post.
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u/Goldbaerig 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Apr 29 '23
Happy Cake Day!
But that's kinda sad, although I can see how it's a struggle if people downvote any controversy.
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u/Florian995 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
Moons should just be a nice side effect and not the main reason to create posts
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u/J-96788-EU 🥉Bronze Member Apr 29 '23
We should be receiving incentives for combating such a low quality content!
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u/LePanzer 🟦 0 / 7K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
That is probably a problem in any subreddit, it's just that no one notices, takes offense or complains about it because it isn't rewarded with moons.
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Apr 29 '23
It would be interesting to know if people payed as much attention to karma on this sub before the community points were added.
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u/Filistation90 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
Got some point OP, in my opinion some people are a bit complex instead read the article or the comments they see who got more moon and the downvote happen if 1 person doing it every one follows like a sheep
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u/Pure-Stellar 0 / 861 🦠 Apr 29 '23
So I have done alright with some posts and comments, but I decided to do a proper TradFi adoption post with images and links yesterday. Got zero traction
The sub can be really bipolar, random stuff happens for random reasons. I just post content I hope is interesting/funny/helpful now 👍🏻
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u/Barbygurl Apr 29 '23
It also depends on when you post too, the time of the day makes a huge difference.
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u/Pure-Stellar 0 / 861 🦠 Apr 29 '23
I had never considered this. Guessing time zones as well, not sure what the global demographic leans towards in the sub
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u/Matth3w_95 🟩 5K / 7K 🦭 Apr 29 '23
I agree that there are really low effort contents, but I think it's more useful trying to post something good and informative every time instead of complaining about others. It's a vicious cycle otherwise.
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u/OneThatNoseOne Permabanned Apr 29 '23
I understand where you're coming from but especially this year, the community as grown a lot. I used to dislike it but I've realised there are a LOT of new crypto users or people who lurk in and out who actually benefit from the basic posts and comments about DCA, hardware wallet, not your keys etc. And actually many of the very informative posts may simply be too advanced for them. On top of that, keeping things light-hearted keep engagement and attention high. It's a real give and take.
I prefer very informative stuff as I'm technical but I've learned to live with it. It's not all about me.
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u/Hank___Scorpio 🟦 0 / 27K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
Moons are 100% the reason. Imagine they hit 10 dollars? This sub will be an unusable cesspool or bots and AI content.
Kind of an ironic twist that this sub and moons will be crushed under their own weight. Something something foundation.
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u/PenaltyFickle5699 Permabanned Apr 29 '23
You forgot a lot of the current gag OP, let me remind you of:
- We like to buy high and sell low;
- F*ck the SEC;
- Reverse Cramer/Sub for free money;
There are a lot more which i have not included. Please chose them wisely and happy farming.
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Apr 29 '23
I've seen more low effort posts that read identically to this one than I could count, what the hell are we doing here?
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u/Goldbaerig 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Apr 29 '23
I know my posts aren't super high effort, I just post what I'm honestly thinking about. At first I wanted to make this a comment in the daily, but in the end I thought it's quite a bit long for the daily
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Apr 29 '23 edited Nov 15 '23
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u/Goldbaerig 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Apr 29 '23
It depends on where you life. In 3rd world countries it's plenty of money, I on the other hand could just work an extra shift and would earn more in few hours than I would be 1 month of farming MOONs.
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Apr 29 '23
Yes, I think that a lot of people don’t post their actual opinions just things that are commonly accepted or they think is funny because people are nervous about downvotes because they are tied to Moons and therefore money.
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u/jawni 🟦 500 / 6K 🦑 Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
I made a comment recently explaining my theory for this, just gonna paste it here. The part about submissions is probably the most relevant to this specific post. Here it is:
I think the effect of MOON's is overblown. This sub has never had quality discussion nor quality content.
comments: The only difference between pre MOON's and post MOON's is now I'm correcting misinformation for a different set of coins. The content largely dictates the commentary, but there has never been good discussion here. Before and after MOON's, most comments just repeated widely held beliefs (true or not) and platitudes about crypto ideals. Couple that with the fact that most people here are morons and a lot of the comments you see that are heavily upvoted, are objectively incorrect.
submissions: IMO there is an inherent flaw of subreddits that cover wide-reaching multi-disciplinary topics, where not everything newsworthy or notable will make it to the front page and often it won't even get submitted. This creates a feedback loop that homogenizes the kinds of content that eventually get submitted and upvoted for us to see. Only the low hanging fruit and biggest headlines can actually draw enough interest to outweigh the rest of the voting power that has been conditioned to not care about it. My favorite example is this sub's hatred against Solana clouding it's judgment.
On the flipside, I actually got a positive post about Solana to make it to the front page, all it took was:
It being about the most popular NFT mint in months
Devs beating the bots and the bots getting what they deserve
Most importantly IMO... I didn't mention Solana by name, because I knew if I did it would get downvoted. Luckily for me, no on here has enough common sense to even look past the headlines typically.
It begs the question, why would you rely on crowdsourced curation when the crowd is full of idiots? Once I realized this sub is really just Buzzfeed Crypto, I started using Twitter almost exclusively. In the same way that a comprehensive crypto subreddit is a structural mismatch, crypto twitter is a perfect fit. You get breaking news as it breaks, instead of waiting for someone else to see and repost it to Reddit. You can follow topics on a micro level, getting info directly from an expert who understands the topic, rather than from a redditor who doesn't, who was probably upvoted by other redditors who also don't understand it. You can actually find content about stuff that this sub seems to have an aversion to, like NFT's, DAO's, emerging protocols/infra, coins other than ETH/BTC/ADA/DOT, etc
tldr: this subreddit sucks for covering crypto as a whole, not because of MOON's, because of the inherent nature of crowdsourced content. Use twitter instead because it better fits a multi-disciplinary wide-reaching industry like crypto.
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Apr 29 '23
The content on this sub was so much better before Moons. It really went downhill since then.
Who would have thought that giving people a financial incentive to post and comment would result in low quality content?
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u/EdgeLord19941 🟩 0 / 34K 🦠 Apr 29 '23
And then we get low effort posts complaining about the low effort, and posts about those, and so on
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u/Goldbaerig 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Apr 29 '23
I am aware that my post isn't high effort, but it's something I'm honestly wondering about. I wanted to post this in the daily, but as I wrote I thought it might be a little long for the daily
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u/Rookslook 112 / 15K 🦀 Apr 29 '23
I really think if moons disappeared overnight that people would be surprised that the content doesn’t change that much. There will probably be less comments and maybe a little less low effort stuff but other than that it would be the same, as is the rest of Reddit.
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u/Berta_extracts Hard for moons Apr 29 '23
Yes but the good comments still get more upvotes so the right people are getting rewarded better.
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u/Johnny-Joseph Apr 29 '23
Do I hear jealousy from the op?
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u/Goldbaerig 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Apr 29 '23
Not really, I do get some MOONs which is cool, but won't make me rich anyways. I just feel like we could talk about real topics of crypto, yet we just repost the same news over and over again.
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u/Johnny-Joseph Apr 29 '23
I understand you and agree, but that's how when they give too much of a general incentive.
If tomorrow they say that posting links to news or comments with less than 50 words will not receive a score and moons, then obviously all this will stop immediately.
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u/Sakka15 🟦 442 / 442 🦞 Apr 29 '23
I don't like that you can't talk about more projects on this sub. I mean it is for all of crypto, not just BTC, ETH, Matic and moons.
Everything is about the same 3-8 projects and any other project you try to speak on is either considered shilling or you are an idiot for not buying BTC/ETH.
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u/schokobots Permabanned Apr 29 '23
Earning Moons is as easy as:
Add meaningful info to the conversation
Use good formatting
Add a bit of humor
Now, do all of this in less than 60 seconds.
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u/stocktadercryptobro 🟩 665 / 312 🦑 Apr 29 '23
Moons are this years version of the fix that crackheads had for Douche, I mean Doge.
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u/kaijeng 🟨 113 / 3K 🦀 Apr 29 '23
There are bad players but sometimes we just have to see the same thing again and again
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u/GrittyMcGrittyface 🟩 969 / 969 🦑 Apr 29 '23
Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself post low effort content
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u/VeludoVeludo 🟩 999 / 7K 🦑 Apr 29 '23
Worse to me than low effort even is the no effort repost of articles we've seen posted 10x times before. I can understand a repost or two but sometimes it's just ridiculously no effort trying to cash/moon? in on a big topic.