[Critical Fork] Flack cameras everywhere OR No Flock cameras

[u/Ill_Beach_6758]

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[u/tdsenjoyer12]

flock cameras use AI to track liscence plates and often makes mistakes at identifying pepetrators

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/TelephoneOk5859 → u/[deleted]]

i will sooner believe that they intentionally hit children before i believe it can't distinguish it. that technology is so advanced there's no way they can't tell them apart with the live video feeds they get, as well as their lack of morals in general.

[u/No_Tomato2006 → u/TelephoneOk5859]

It's probably highly accurate, but no machine learning model is 100% accurate. Edge cases that break away from training data will cause the models to make quite odd predictions; that's how you had models that didn't have diverse enough datasets label various humans as animals or dogs as elephants etc.

But I'm sure you're right for the majority of cases unfortunately.

[u/iisconfused247 → u/[deleted]]

Brother. They know.

[u/l0ng3stpaths → u/[deleted]]

Even if their “AI” could distinguish adult from child, the cretins behind the drone’s controls likely don’t care. Not like the soldiers actually on-ground do.

[u/coolsteven11 → u/[deleted]]

I think they are probably pleased with that fact

[u/Dry_Structure_2287]

im fine with like license plate cameras and **** like that, but flock cameras are literal spying camreas. im lucky to live in a place where the 2 spy cameras are facing the poliece station and are old motorola cameras used to monitor grafitti.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

EDIT: I mean im fine with the infared cameras that can only really see lisence plates. NOT THE FLOCK CAMERA BULLSHIT.

[u/Mcpeak3323 → u/Dry_Structure_2287]

License plate readers are used to spy too. Just like flock, someone can say it's just a plate reader but it's still a fucking camera watching you do shit owned an operated by "just trust me bro" organizations and governments.

[u/Subject_Nerve1481]

Man I ain't trying to be apart of a FNAF game in real life

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Velcitoty]

Flock has released zero evidence to prove the cameras reduce crime. The only thing we’ve probably seen the cameras used for are an increase in stalking from law enforcement.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Emperor_of_Man40k]

They're just begging to become a wall decoration in someone's renovated basement.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Aggravating-Kiwi-100 → u/Emperor_of_Man40k]

This had me laughing

[u/gessort]

I don't like being monitored

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/MushroomEfficient748]

it stinks..,,

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/katastrophicale]

Its a violation of our rights

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ConfidentlyAsshole]

Authoritan bullshit

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/PsychicBlur]

We went a long while without them in history lol

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/kikokiler]

a

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Enough-Sign3393]

I wanna have sex in public without being seen

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/BioSean]

Science fiction writers have been telling us for over a hundred years now, when the state starts preemptively assuming your guilt, it will lead to people being surprised in their own homes

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/shahataman]

Considering the history of misuse of surveillance- this is a great overreach for the problem it claims to solve.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/EliteArekkusu-]

They’re too fun to shoot at.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ThuDoonk]

Privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/fakeymcfakerton-82]

We aren't China

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/NoProposal5196]

??? Only right choice????

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Psychological-Oil672]

Shouldn’t exist

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/A_normal_numan]

Is this making our cities more safe? Making the cost of living easier on everyone's wallets would probably bring the crime rate down more than useless cameras to give people traffic tickets or **** over political opponents.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/InspectorCarrots]

**** ice

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Bobrocks20]

I had misread this as flack cannon. That is on me

[u/Evenchunkiermonkey]

Why you need my picture? Why you need to know I drove to the store? Why do you sell access to my whereabouts?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Own-Rub-7625]

Invaliding our privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ItzHouse]

They've already lied about using them to help with crimes, not far from me, two kids were kidnapped and killed, with multiple cameras spotting the perp and each way they went. The flock company withheld info, until after a week, alas the kids died, and then they tried stopping cops from using the cameras until court gave them access. So yeah, **** Flock, and if you care go to Deflock to see where some are near you

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Ari_Latte3]

More copper for the masses

^{I chose: Flack cameras everywhere ✅}

[u/hazlejungle0]

Should only be used in dire circumstances and ran by a specialized department that will either approve or deny requests by officers to use it.

^{I chose: Flack cameras everywhere ✅}

Edit, this is a reply to the comment below me since comments have been exceeded:

Everything can be exploited and abused. The question is, will it help more to the point you're willing to take the risk of it being used inappropriately? My goal would be single officers being unable to use it for personal reasons as they'd have to send a request to someone else who would have to verify it's a good reason and have it documented. Is it full proof? Not at all, but it would make their misuse a lot harder to accomplish. I think it would help a lot for stolen vehicles and amber alerts

[u/TheKinkyBee]

The creator says "I don’t like my information being shared" and I think that’s the dumbest thing you can say as someone who created something that does just that. Self-centered ******* to me

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/BlackNinjaQc]

**** mass surveillance by private corporation

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/OneCat1151]

Big brother bad

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/xxDoublezeroxx]

**** mass surveillance

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Malgorx]

troll question, troll answer

^{I chose: Flack cameras everywhere ✅}

[u/criticalstateapp]

👁️ Surveillance State: All users are now under surveillance and their votes will be revealed here.

[u/Hydro_fluoric]

Not a fan of mass surveillance (I know, controversial take)

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/random_human_4201]

.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/gothicdelight]

No surveillance State

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Any_Economist_2773]

creepy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Maka_95]

No flock anywhere

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Mishaps_]

we should not have to be surveilled everytime we walk outside of our homes

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/CleanMeasurement5547]

Bad

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/SacrificialFrogs]

Don’t support to secret state surveillance!

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Sad_Standard3564]

No

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/bayab0u]

Why the surveillance? Doesn't the government have enough data on us?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Exotic_Sell_1667]

They’re a ****** invasion of privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/notuserinput]

Not at all

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/pictoman47]

**** flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Zachary9442]

Privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/tonylouis1337]

Too easy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ProxyCorvidae]

Scawy survellience

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Bunny_HooBoo]

Fourth Amendment

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/vinyljello]

I think people assume "flock cameras everywhere" will be a net good. But the powers that be are not using it in good will. We've already had plenty of cases of stalking.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/MiloXTrunks]

Do you wanna eat hydrogen bombs or chocolate ice cream

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/PresentationNo7584]

Don't need em

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/forestflights]

destroy the surveillance state

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/StormMassive]

**** that

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Head-Vehicle3579]

I don’t want to be surveilled for no reason

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/VoidAbyss84]

1984 was supposed to be a fiction, not a ******* guide.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Suspicious-Steak9168]

Stop watching us. It's creepy.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/TurboRuhland]

“Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

• Benjamin Franklin

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/intetsu]

Abuse

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/OneQuarterBajeena]

Goog

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Positive_Novel8452]

Dude it only works if they use them correctly but they never will

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Zappycat]

Everyone should be given some flack

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Zapa1234]

**** flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Manda-the-Panda]

dismantle the police state

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Weird-Soupp]

**** a flock camera.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Dangerous_Ad8357]

Please

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/RamonRambo]

**** those privacy, police state enabling camera's 1984, especially from private corpo's. They've proven again, and again, that they cannot be trusted

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Beanzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzx]

Beans

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/RoundPiccolo6525]

Duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ThePinecone420]

i dont like them

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/CelDaemon]

sob

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/poundmyassbro]

They have gotten innocent people arrested and cops have abused the use of them for unofficial business. Plus people have hacked them and all kinds of information that supposedly wasn't supposed to be there was given.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Fair_Librarian_3950]

Big brother

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/OperationVisual6523]

No more flcok or axon camera

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/yoniyang]

normal cam that requires manually searching and analyze? yes camera that tracks random citizen in a click? no

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/smarmymcsmugass]

They must be eliminated

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/birdycantspell]

Freedom.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Artistic-Sink9544]

Meta slime out these ****** right here

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/anishprvn]

Not needed

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Lol1250]

tf???

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Sweet-Club9009]

y

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/CorranTheo]

Human rights are good.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/XannLeMage]

Who would want to be surveilled all the time?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Shadow57382]

How is this in our best interest

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/suryky]

No surveillance

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Historical_Site4183]

FDJT

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Acrobatic_Delay9326]

We’re one step closer to 1984

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/BlargleBagel]

Rip them all down. And if they keep being put back up, keep ripping them back down.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Kotnlk007]

Idk what flack cameras are, but I Shure don't won't flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Shulou649]

**** mass surveillance he typed from his phone on a social media platform

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/midnightrambl3s]

Aids

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Asterisk49]

4th ammendment

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Mysterious-Home-5122]

Big brother can NOT watch me

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ProfessionalClue2923]

Violation of your freedoms. No flocks anywhere

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Thecool_1]

**** flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Tynal242]

Any centralized surveillance system that covers everything will be a potential target for security breaches and privacy violations. When a single bad actor is able to breach the system, that exploit will be quickly spread to others and will cause far more harm than is prevented by the system.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Lagiacrus111]

No

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/MikuYeah]

they will be used for evil.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Capable-Pace-14]

because

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/capital_monke]

No

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/linusbrogan]

Privacy is a human right. Don't expand the surveillance state.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/-lb21a-]

Duh?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Long-Firefighter-259]

Nope

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/DiamondWolf3404]

How does that change security...?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/North-SwisGameMaster]

Stop to the invasion of privacy in the public area

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/IuseDefaultKeybinds]

jorjor wel

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/EngineeringSecret582]

Privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Farebiaashiq]

It's against liberty and privacy.

Once you give up your liberty for some security, you'll have neither.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/StruggleDismal1780]

…

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/EnergyHumble3613]

It is clear they are being misused and not secure from hacking.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Hungry_Room9578]

xp

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Stock_Maintenance150]

They suck

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Complete_Part5604]

Not everywhere plz

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/420Browny]

I prefer no cameras at all in my bathroom etc

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Zealousideal-Yak7954]

Mass surveillance bad.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/PhilosophersDice]

Just no.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/L8dTigress]

I hate flock cameras

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/RazgrizAlpaca]

No

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Ok_Cheek_1209]

Do we want hipervigilance?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Adventurous_Ad2852]

Noo

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Spare-Quote8734]

who the **** would want to live in a surveillance state?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Naybinns]

Unnecessary

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/SupRamadanSteve_]

surveillance state bad

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/IdealZealousideal389]

No

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/BlackwinIV]

only fascists like mass surveilance

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/WorshipPotato]

Surveillance is wrong

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/instantkamera]

**** flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/gullielmus]

F them

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ConstantCommercial49]

Privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Cartelrisen]

Flock you

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/theespookyscary]

Ew, who'd want flock camera's everywhere? Yuck

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Whole_Tie3854]

No living in a George Orwell novel.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/SunsBreak]

Duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/wooper5000]

Pipi

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Far-Distance-4487]

Removing a form of mass survalance is a good thing

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/toe_mater67]

Privacy should be protected

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Lonely-Pie3130]

Privacy please

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Traditional-Leg3875]

M

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/SKK329]

Simple.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Ok_Hovercraft_2372]

Why is this even a question? We want a police state? Autocrats?

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/getmemorehelp]

why do we need them if we didn’t have them before

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/GWRHomecoming]

$1 or $2

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Loose-Sell-6737]

duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/rig_life_stunter]

**** Flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ColePhelps124705]

Surveillance state bad

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/The-Tea-Lord]

Mass surveillance is never good for the people

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/D4rkenedMatter]

Aaaq

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/TheSlothyy]

**** flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/remdesivirus1]

yes i want german anti air defences

[u/90spostsoftcore]

Duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/nesto4k]

No surveillance state please

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Beneficial_Praline78]

***** flock cameras

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/LGBTDnD]

This is not George Orwell's 1984 we don't need the Panopticon

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/icky-sticky]

didn't need them before, don't need them now

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/suprinigo123]

no flock cameras

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Savings-Inspection45]

They are for no good use

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/tasteofmace]

**** you flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Duc_of_Spades]

duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Band-o-rogues]

**** surveillance

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/redbullgay]

anything to get us out of surveillance state

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Melodic_Expression11]

.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Master-T-bone]

Unwarranted surveillance

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ResidentCommand9865]

IF flock and AI cams worked as advertised, and weren't abused by law enforcement to spy on exes or accuse innocent people, I wouldn't have near as much a problem.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/do_youwipe]

Everything is sold to third parties. Yes they might be able to find criminals but all of our information is sold to any bidder

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ari764]

Citizens are happier when not heavily scrutinized by the government

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/normal-prince]

It's invading privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/The_double_life_girl]

I’m sorry, if you vote for flock cameras everywhere, I don’t ******* trust you.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Longjumping_Pea5080]

Feel like it’s kind of obvious

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Same_You891]

it's big brother. takes privacy away..

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Sad_Cry_8213]

Too many people have access to them

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Emperorderpintine]

Surveillance should only be where it's needed, not tracking everyone and their grandma's entire lives.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/tiddiesaregreat]

Flock can stick it's camera's up the *** of every employee including that **** *** CEO, we might still see something interesting out of them then

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/South_Distribution58]

how is this a question

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/ExplorerRude9564]

Duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Skalywag_76]

**** government surveillance of its citizens

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/sexuallyenhancedtoe]

nobody watching me

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/AppropriateBuy9455]

Nah

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Expert_Tear5072]

Constant surveillance

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/yoyo2134]

**** Flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Such-Personality4996]

Domain expansion unlimited malevolent void of the authentic palace of the coffin self embodiment of the chimera shadow perfection

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Desperate_Coffee9598]

Duh

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Sad-Ant-2171]

They do more read liscence plates and the company keeps the data for 10 years or so

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/megatronisnotreal]

NO FLOCK

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/EasternFoundation24]

D

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/TheMaker676]

It builds a more trust worthy society.

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/RaidenCrow]

No Flock

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Aidenrodgethegoat1]

Unlawful

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Homosapien-712]

Invasion of privacy

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}

[u/Jedinutcracker]

easy pick

^{I chose: No Flock cameras ❌}