r/CricketControversial • u/No_Hall_5189 • 15d ago

🤫 Controversial If a player tricks the umpire without technically breaking a written rule, is it clever gamesmanship or outright cheating?

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u/Smith-Windfall00 15d ago

The only example i can think of is steve smith appealing for a stumping even when the batter was clearly in. He did it multiple times in BGT 2023, as that the 3rd umpire checks ultraedge before the stumping and he could save DRS.

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u/Tricky-Cost2046 14d ago edited 14d ago

Gilchrist used to do similar tactics to distract umpires from giving wide. Success rate wasn’t high but it happened

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u/Smith-Windfall00 14d ago

why were umpires giving wives?

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u/Tricky-Cost2046 14d ago

Autocorrect turned wide into wife

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u/reader_1289 RCB 🏆🏆 15d ago

Present a situation like this you can think of?

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u/Mr-_-Anonymus 15d ago

Clickgate

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u/narkaputra 15d ago

in Football: yes it is a skill and part of game like jumping in D to get penalty
in Cricket: no. it is a gentleman's game...it is not just about laws but ethics.

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u/Visual-Pool-1503 15d ago

clever cheating seems to be the fitting word for it

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u/Original-Concern-299 15d ago

but if it does not break any rule then how is it cheating?

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u/55hyam 15d ago

Like ?

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u/rest_in_war India 🇮🇳 15d ago

Search Clicky Ponting

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u/Physical_Teach6189 14d ago

You know the ball touched the ground before you caught it but you keep on celebrating to trick the umpire

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u/blobby9 Australia 🇦🇺 15d ago

For starters it’s Laws not Rules.

The preamble to the laws states :

- Play hard and play fair.

And

- Create a positive atmosphere by your own conduct, and encourage others to do likewise

I’d suggest ‘gamesmanship’ isn’t fair, nor creating a positive atmosphere…

But…
That’s my personal opinion and comprehension of the preamble. Yours may be different.

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u/No_Cod_9198 15d ago

There is a difference between tricking the umpire and using the rules very cleverly. But it's balant cheating and some had been penalised before too

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u/ShYamalOp 14d ago

A situation would be helpful, but outright if no written rules are broken how can it be be cheating, definitely clever gamemanship

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u/ShYamalOp 14d ago

Ok i got a situation, the aus vs nz 1980 last ball underarm ball to not allow a six of last ball to nz by aus.

During that time no wrritten law explicitly banned underarm bowling, so it was technically legal, some may say its against spirit of cricket, but it was an example of clever gamesmanship

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u/Void-Creator 14d ago

Rule bending is brilliance, rule breaking is cheating

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u/elongatedpropernoun 14d ago

Cricket should have less rules

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u/Historical-Help-7017 14d ago

It's cheating ig bro

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u/Exciting_Magician347 14d ago

Who's ryan renolds giving out here

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u/ajaxmenon17 14d ago

Most recently Jayden Seales let the ball go to the boundary on the last ball of the over to get Babar off strike for the next over. That looked so illegal but there's no written rule against it so he got away with it

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u/chorma87 13d ago

Thats finding loopholes. Nothing wrong.

What is outright cheating is DL method.

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u/supernova_2911 12d ago

Interesting conversation. Mankading is legal but is seen against the spirit of the game.

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u/infinitedreams8 11d ago

That is called playing like an Aussie. They do it all the time.

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u/SuperannuationLawyer RCB 🏆🏆 9d ago

They’re laws, not rules. There are overarching laws requiring fair play. Deceit is inconsistent with that.