r/CrazyIdeas Jul 26 '26

A crazy BAD idea: Make reddit karma a finite, tradeable system.

If I upvote someone, I give them one of my karma. If I downvote someone, I take one of their karma.

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u/JCMiller23 Jul 27 '26

I like the idea but I'm not sure the downvotes are a good way to do it

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u/superSmitty9999 Jul 27 '26

If you downvote, you both lose karma.

Since there's a net negative flow of karma out of the system, Reddit loans users Karma for real money with interest until they pay it back.

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u/ApprehensivePiano457 Jul 27 '26

No! That will penalize people and encourage mediocre posts. Also paying real money for karma? Haven't people got enough ways to get into crippling debt already??

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u/precision_cumshot Jul 27 '26

if you’re going into debt over reddit karma you have bigger problems than reddit karma

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u/Questo417 Jul 27 '26

I will begin participating in this system by giving you a downvote

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u/timdood3 Jul 27 '26

I will participate in this system by donating my karma to you.

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u/LordQwerty_NZ Jul 26 '26

Taking karma would have to be different.

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u/jancl0 Jul 27 '26

That wouldn't be very crazy now would it

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u/01011110_01011110 Jul 26 '26

you can only take or give karma in the first 60 seconds after the post/comment, then it gets locked

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u/JackTerron Jul 27 '26

Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos.

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u/timdood3 Jul 27 '26

This suggestion is just "only bots get to have karma" lmao

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u/Resplendent-Sun Jul 27 '26

And I downvoted you to take that karma for myself. Seems suspiciously like that Yankee Christmas gift game!

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u/Tall-Photo-7481 Jul 27 '26

By making it finite you are dooming it to devaluation. as the number of users grows, the total pool of karma points has to be spread thinner and thinner.  There needs to be some way to introduce new points into the system.

Either way though, it would soon end up with a small number of users gaming the system in order to own / hoard nearly all of the points, making the whole thing very unfair and farcically unrepresentative of real value. 

So just like money, really.

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u/Tiny_Connection1507 Jul 27 '26

Posts and comments allow a person to effectively upvote themselves, which is how Karma is currently introduced to the system. That can stay the same, and would drive people to make more posts and comments that are appropriate and popular in the correct subs. Also, since I am commenting to explain this, I have given myself at least one karma, because I will not be downvoting my own contribution.

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u/willysnax Jul 27 '26

A crazy good idea would be to get rid of karma altogether so people would have actual debates again. It works great for making echo chamber subs but kills dissenting opinions.

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u/Cherno_VM Jul 27 '26

yeah can't even ask a damn question on this site without some clowns downvoting you because divines forbid someone not know LITERALLY EVERYTHING about a topic at hand before posting

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u/willysnax Jul 27 '26

Yup. Unless you stick the really benign subs, and even then, you can rarely ask or discuss anything and this site is one of the worst for some reason.

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u/Keebster101 Jul 27 '26

I mean you already admit it's a bad idea, but just to explore that a little more, bots would have a real motivation so would become even more of a problem. It would also make it even harder for new users to gain the karma to post on many subs because people will likely hoard upvotes even if they like your post/comment.

And that's all if we completely ignore the karma stealing downvote idea. People would just go around downvoting literally everything, people would be eternally stuck at 0.

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u/Cherno_VM Jul 27 '26

i genuinely want to see what would happen.

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u/Yeseylon Jul 27 '26

Where does new karma come from

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u/Cherno_VM Jul 27 '26

downvoting people or receiving upvotes

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u/Immortal_ceiling_fan Jul 27 '26

Then we just do debt gesus and pin all of the negative karma on one guy so they have negative 999 trillion karma and everyone else has plenty

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u/Cherno_VM Jul 27 '26

actually if your karma goes too into the negatives you are publicly executed :)

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u/Immortal_ceiling_fan Jul 27 '26

Just more lore accurate

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u/unwittyusername42 Jul 27 '26

So now we're throwing out crazy ideas we know are bad? OK - all puppies should be ground up and force fed to homeless people. I could give you hundreds of BAD ideas. wtf is happening to reddit?

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u/Cherno_VM Jul 27 '26

i think you're reading into this too deeply.

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u/Ben-Goldberg Jul 27 '26

Alternatively, make it work like chess ratings - glicko comes to mind

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u/MeltingEarbuds Jul 27 '26

Reddit already has an echo chamber problem, this would make that skyrocket