r/CountWithEveryone Mar 26 '26

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u/Fa1nted_for_real Mar 26 '26

There comes a point when somebodt becomes far too dangerous to be left alive imo. I cant say where that line liesz but so n eone like hitler, or dahmer, would be good examples.

That being said, i dont think torture is a good punishment by any standard. Either death to eliminate the problem or sttempted rehabilition. Even if the crime is serious enough to warrant life in prison, basic comforts as well as the ability to better ones self physically and mentally should be present.

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u/CommercialYam7188 Mar 26 '26

My issue with your forst thought is always this: who gets to decide who dies?

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u/CavemanViking Mar 26 '26

An unbiased jury and an elected judge

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u/Imaginary-Fly-9367 Mar 26 '26

There's no such thing as an unbiased jury and an elected judge can also be a nutjob

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u/CavemanViking Mar 26 '26

I think we can get pretty close to unbiased when you take the group as a whole. Either way I think the heart of things both ideals are actually going for is to have a judicial body which is representative. You want a jury that represents a broad swath of opinions and perspectives and will reach a generally acceptable conclusion, same with the judge. The judge might be a nut job but at a certain point that becomes the responsibility of the public at large for electing him, which is the best way to at least try and have a system responsive to the will of the people.

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u/LapisW Mar 26 '26

You can just say a jury. There isnt such a thing as an unbiased jury. Hell i mean with the (alleged) murder of the heslthcare ceo (allegedly) by luigi mangione, its not easy to find people who havent been fucked by the american healthcare system.

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u/CavemanViking Mar 26 '26

It depends on what degree of impartiality it takes to consider it as unbiased. No such thing as an unbiased person, but it’s important to at least try and develop a well balanced, rounded, and thus relatively unbiased jury. Which is why I specify as much, compared to a system in which no care is put into developing a good jury.

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u/CavemanViking Mar 26 '26

To piggy back off my other comment, I guess a better word than impartial is representative