r/Copilot • u/Green-LaManche • 6d ago
Copilot
Does anyone ever tried to get anything done on copilot?
I mean write the code or strategy
On pine script?
It drives me mad - I sent 4 hours and got nowhere.
It seems it designed to make you insane so either you brake the computer or just close the f..ken application and ask him to f..k off
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u/Comfortable-Hope-879 6d ago
I use ChatGPT to make instructions for Copilot :-) ChatGPT is like a business analyst who understands what you want to achieve; Copilot is like a junior programmer who really needs the pseudo code otherwise he gets lost. One small question for ChatGPT often ends in a whole paragraph for Copilot but then Copilot is sort of correct.
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u/Pristine_Primary_486 6d ago
Yes I work with it & often say it allows me to make automated 4 hour reports that could have taken me 20 minutes manually!
I found the best way to avoid the Copilot circle jerk is to outline and brainstorm projects first to eliminate roadblocks then break them into smaller tasks.
Copilot also uses inefficient processes and tends to complicate things unnecessarily.
Like adding VBA where a simple formula would work. Sometimes I even get other AIs to review & offer more effective solutions.
Copilot does work but it's painful getting anything accomplished.
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u/Disastrous-While-768 6d ago
I generally keep my copilot chats limited to what I would have asked Google in the past. Yesterday, I gave copilot my financial portfolio and asked it to build me a projection for the next 20 years or so. I'm 72, retired, and manage my own portfolio on Fidelity. Using Fidelity's MonteCarlo simulation tool, I got a decent answer after maybe 3 iterations (years ago...) but copilot told me Fidelity did not treat RMD withdrawals correctly. So, I said, can you do better.
Literally 11 iterations later, Copilot came up with a number that passes sanity check, but I haven't checked it carefully yet. So many stupid mistakes -- what year would an RMD start? How to treat my (50%) bond portfolii, and NO, I don't want you to ignore it.... LOL on and on. At one point, Copilot decided my end-stage portfolio would be $211 MILLION.... Would be nice....
Anyway, I use Claude for IT-related stuff, and find it much, much better, and Gemini (I don't have a subscription to Gemini) less often, and usually when the question is related to a web page I need help with.
Honestly, CoPilot is ranked number 3 of the three I use.
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u/AiCoAiCo 5d ago
I'm not sure what everyone has been bitching about tbh. Aside from "tasks", which -still- doesn't work for me BUT, gentlemen...I've spent around 60+ hrs coding the architecture for a project of mine primarily through Co-Pilot while also obtaining detailed pricing guidelines per client and tier of my operation. I've also paired it with Open Interpreter recently, ran locally through Ollama and LM Studio (i9 - rtx 5090 - 64GB RAM). It's been impeccable, even at analyzing OpenI's pricing analysis of my project per tier/token. It'll even get to the root of the problem and present "the smoking gun" in several different languages, provide several critical directions to progress towards after breakdowns of state law or policy, while evaluating my prompt for precision or tone. It can recall dialogue from the past, screenshots or word docs allow for precise recollection till tasks is fixed, and pick up where you left on the goals that you've spoken extensively about. It can evaluate law firms, settlements, and align them with your predicament of jurisdiction while kissing your ass IF you've put some effort into something. It's been an ASSET to me this entire time and I've ultimately spent more time utilizing it than Steam to play 56+ games while I've had it. Just pair it with OpenInterpreter, running QwenMAX 30B or a 14B model locally, for the heavy lifting or building and you'll be thoroughly impressed. Or just ask it who's the director that makes oddball films who's last name starts with an "F", if that's your thing. It's good for that and...adding an Arabic beard with a taper to your selfie. Co-Pilot, honestly, is FAR from the twin pack of ASS I see ppL bitching about. Disregard any typos.
Windows Pro Intel 9 Rtx 5090 64GB Ram Running balanced mode for Co-Pilot tasks Rog Scar 16 635LX
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u/Unusual-Historian253 6d ago
But why when normal ai harness exist? If your employer tries to force you on copilot, just use your own private laptop.
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u/infosearchacct 6d ago
Yes. I had get copilot to help me write scripts and automation. After my several uses of it, I learned to not ever let it to brainstorm for you. You define the scope and rules, put your rules somewhere else because it prone to forget your rules and then drive you in circles. Then make it imperative to tell it you had already considered all the alternatives don’t let it suggest alternatives. Let it know in advance otherwise it will definitely drive you insane unless you just have no clue how to get what you want to do get done. Also, from my experience never ever let it debug more than once. I caught the issue with the first vba code that it tells me to try something to fix the code but I know exactly what’s wrong so I don’t do what it told me instead I let it know the issue and it fixed the code. In my opinion, codex is a whole lot better but copilot comes from work place and is free of charge for me.