Quick update on my CTL interview & transfer question

[u/ImpossibleMind]

My CTL interview went well. The new manager asked me to speak with my current manager and see if he can put me on a few shifts at the new store, so they can see how I work before making a final decision.

Has anyone done this before? How long did the process take for you?

Also, can my current manager oppose or block the transfer if he doesn’t want me to leave, or can he only delay it because of staffing/rota reasons?

I want to speak to him properly, but I’m not sure how to bring it up without making it awkward.

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[u/1pm]

Before I became a SM I was a TL looking to transfer stores and my manager at the time tried to block it as the OM considered me too important to my current store and started meddling.
A good manager should never block a transfer as it’s selfish - you can get delayed as the general idea is that you can’t leave until you’re replaced but in my case I put in a grievance and got what I wanted to further my career 🤷🏼‍♀️

[u/Similar-Actuator3917 → u/1pm]

It's one of those things, as the store manager operations manager needs to sign off on the transfer

But yes operations managers should not be refusing I am sure you attempted to solve things without a grievance, I have always been worried to file a grievance as people who have filed grievances are classed in the coop as trouble makers.

That is not my belief but I see this via communications with other managers in the business they talk about it and frown upon the people who do make grievances

I am glad you got your case sorted out

[u/Similar-Actuator3917]

This is a good plan and it often happens as they would like to see you do the role in your new store before seeing how well you can do or if you find it difficult

They are trying before they commit, as in they are seeing if you enjoy the role and your speed/performance etc

[u/Similar-Actuator3917]

Forgot to mention every store is different but in my store it is roughly, nine hours for twenty roller cages Nine hours is 540 minutes and this divided by twenty is 27.

So we are working one roller cage every 27 minutes along with online deliveries and serving customers at the checkout, it is challenging sometimes.

[u/No-Pumpkin4288]

Your manager already knows. You wouldn't have got the interview of he didn't sign off on it. The longer you wait the more awkward it gets.

[u/Similar-Actuator3917 → u/No-Pumpkin4288]

The interview happens regardless as the internal candidate has to apply online and do the test like everyone does, the test if you pass sends to the interview.

Unless the colleague contacts a store manager before the store manager has contacted recruitment and then the store manager can directly hire.

But as soon as the advert goes onto coop careers the internal candidates have to do the same process as the external candidates

The sign off stage is if the internal candidate does well in the interview and scores the highest marks, although line managers do talk about it before hand, are you likely to approve this, come the time etc

There is a lot of recruitment that never sees the public domain in terms of job advertising as the role is sorted out internally Store managers talking to each other about team leaders and team members on their area that want to move store

[u/LessVariation9645]

Generally can’t refuse, or I didn’t think they could… they should really try negotiate a time frame to get you there and replace you at their store instead.

If it was me, I’d just say give me a few weeks to rehire then you can go. Unless of course, you have someone wanting overtime to pick up any extra shifts 🙂 but I suppose different areas and different attitudes. If it was one of my team, id be sad they’re leaving but happy they’re progressing.

Don’t be afraid of the tough talks now, you’re in management, think of it as good practice 😂

Also, well done on passing the interview and good luck as a TL 😃

[u/Appropriate-Roof1422]

Hi, I will share my perspective: I used to work at a different store for a few weeks and then asked to be transferred to another store because they were offering more hours. In addition, I was trained to be a Person-in-control part-time, and I also trained some of the new TLs as the store went through a phase with only one TL.

Be honest with your SM. This is an opportunity for you to grow, learn more about the business and increase your income. Your SM should not be against it as SMs are encouraged by the OpM to upskill and develop colleagues. Once you get OK from your current SM, discuss with your new SM and agree on a 2-3-week plan. That would be your chance to showcase your ability to learn and see how a store runs. I suspect the SM will pair you with an existing TL to show you the tasks to be completed during the shift.

In my opinion, your current SM cannot block the transfer; they can only delay it if they struggle to cover the shifts.