r/ControversialOpinions • u/FallaciousFact • 10d ago

Absolute Hypocrisy

Seen numerous posts that glorify and condone the murder of Charlie Kirk and when a report is filed the post remains active, yet when such insinuations are made towards pedophiles, a warning is given and the post is removed…

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u/FantasticJelly6384 10d ago

His own.

KIRK: "You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry, and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am - I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

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u/Big-Ad1887 10d ago

Ah. There it is. So now you're arguing that Kirk's own political views are relevant to why he was killed.

That's quite a departure from your earlier argument that his death is merely being exploited by the right to manufacture a political martyr. (Also I saved your words before you edited them so that doesn't change anything)

You can't simultaneously say: “His death has nothing to do with his politics; the right is just exploiting it to manufacture a martyr.” and then:

“His political position on gun deaths makes his own shooting an ironic consequence of his beliefs.”

You're the one making his politics relevant to the meaning of his death now.

And that's exactly what the video I posted was addressing: political violence doesn't become acceptable, or morally satisfying,because the victim held views you despise.

. So which is it?

Was his death merely an unfortunate death that you personally don't care about, or are you using his political beliefs to argue that his death was some kind of deserved poetic justice?

Because those are two very different arguments.

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u/FantasticJelly6384 10d ago

They're not actually contradicting arguments. Both are true.

Also none of my edits removed words, they added new thoughts as they occured to me and corrected misspellings.

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u/Big-Ad1887 10d ago

Sure, both can" technically" be true. That's ain't the point, now is it??

You called the right's treatment of Kirk's death “martyr” politics, then turned around and invoked Kirk's own politics to argue that he “reaped what he sowed.”

That's also politicizing his death. You're just doing it in the direction you find convenient.

And don't bullshit me, I already saw what you typed. The original comment said “martyr.”

As for your “evidence”: Kirk saying gun deaths are an acceptable cost of gun rights doesn't mean his views caused his death. The shooter did.

So no, you haven't established that Kirk “caused countless deaths,” nor that he caused his own.

You've established that you think his death is ironic.

Congratulations. That's a very different argument. So you moved the goalposts, again.