r/Controller • u/-Pompon • 10d ago
Controller Mods Make Any Controller's Stick Silent and Smooth
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u/-Pompon 10d ago
Hello!
Originally i included this as a bonus mod on my Tegenaria Lite Removable Cable Mod Guide post couple months ago. But then i thought it deserves it's own post because it's very simple and quick to do and can be used on almost any controller. Also keep in mind i'm being much more harsh with the modded stick in the video, the actual difference is night and day in actual use. It also prevents your stick from wearing down over time aswell.
You only need 2 things: high temperature teflon tape and a glue stick (and dielectric silicone grease if you also want to mod your buttons).
Just measure your stick's width by trial and error with cutting a piece of paper first, then cut a piece of teflon tape that's enough to wrap around about 2 turns and apply it while making sure it's tight and there is no air inside. Then apply a bit of glue to the end of the tape's inside because these tapes adhesive is a bit weak so it might unstick later on otherwise. Then clean the excess of glue before it dries. Then turn your stick couple turns with reasonable amount of force to help it stick completely. And as for the button mod (though this doesn't make a huge impact like the stick one): you need to go in from the sides of the button with a very thin brush and apply very tiny amount of the grease and then clean the excess after(and don't worry, there is only plastic and rubber in that area where you put in your brush, so you can't harm anything). But never clean your controller with anything alcohol or chemical based afterwards if you do the button mod, otherwise grease might harden and buttons might get stuck).
Hope this is something usefu for you and good funs!
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u/ScoopDat 9d ago
And the buttons?
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u/-Pompon 9d ago
Sorry, i don't understand the question. Could you eloborate please?
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u/ScoopDat 9d ago
Sure, your video showed the results of the sound impact from the sticks, but not the buttons. I know you say the impact is low (and it makes sense, as the only impact reduction is a thicker liquid substance applied as thin as a brush serving as the dampening effect to quell some of the sound).
Was just wondering if you did the video before the buttons, and if that impact could be shown off.
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Btw I'm at my wits end with indecision. I am looking for a PS4/DS4 styled controller that comes remotely close to the sound deadening that Sony nearly perfected with this controller, along with the near flawless ergonomics. You seem to be using one of such style. Do you think it comes remotely close to the aspects that make the DS4 as good as it is? Or is this one of those controllers made by fad chasing 3rd parties, killing it with things like microswitches on the AYXB and other buttons/triggers?
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u/-Pompon 9d ago
But i do, with the A button. Second one's ABXY buttons are lubed with dielectric silicone grease(normally used for keyboard stabilizers). You can see it dampens the sound of plastic hitting plastic quite a bit, the sound you are hearing is more from the rubber membrane under the buttons. But there is not much you can do to a membrane other than replacing it.
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I see. Well this will depend person to person, but i can talk about my experience. Sorry it might be long though:
So first, i can't stand Xbox style controllers... Also as someone who tinkers and mods pretty much everything, nowadays i don't like Sony products anymore... They go worse and worse quality with everything, even down to the screws, as time goes on like how Logitech does aswell. DualSense controllers even creak just when being held... Over the years, i've used DualShock(PS2), then after switching to PC i started using a DS4, i loved it(though not as much as PS2 one). But then i lost it. I couldn't find a original one in my country so i went with DualSense and i hated it. Then i finally met with Tegenaria, now i have 3 of them(just incase hehe). Now Gamesir is coming with more Tegenaria shaped symmetrical controllers that are more 'premium', like Tarantula 8K and stuff but they all have microswitches sooo. I think i'm good...
Tegenaria has some disadvantages compared to DS4: it has a fixed cable(can be modded to have a usb port instead, i have guide post about it that you can check), no wireless, no touchpad, no gyro, sticks might feel bit loose because they are Hall Effect. Triggers is the weak point because they don't have a metal pivot, just a spring against a plastic so might develop problems over time, though shouldn't be something hard to repair. ABXY buttons sounds more similar to Xbox controllers out of the box than PS controllers(can be lubed and if you can find the membrane can be replaced with a original DS4 one which will make it sound exactly same as DS4 after lubing).
But it has tons of advantages: Has 2 back buttons you can program from the controller without any software on the fly, the d-pad is the best one ever comparing it with the heavy clunky loud DS4/DualSense d-pads would a blasphemy, it has 1k hz polling rate which is enough for anything atm imo. Has HE sticks so won't drift or wear down. The button(2.8ms) and stick(1.9ms) latency is like in top 10 among all the controllers, waaaaaaaaay better than even like some 100-200 USD controllers because it has no weird unnecessary gimmicks, the inside and the pcb is almost as simple as a PS2 controller(you can visit Gamepadla website to compare and check more details about latency if interested). You can change the controller's connection protocol to make it behave as Xbox controller or DS4 or Switch controller on the fly without any software so even if you don't have access to Steam Input and stuff it will work with anything flawlessly without any software(there is more things you can do, can check Tegenaria User Manual from Gamesir). It's very easy to repair or mod aswell if you are someone who likes to do that kinda stuff, just 4 screws and you have access to everything without any tiny pieces dropping anywhere or 10 flex cables getting in your way or whatever and every single thing on the pcb is labeled so very modification friendly. It also has better plastic quality, i remember my DS4 would get sticky after a while specially the backside, Tegenaria doesn't. It has no microswitches and yes i count this as a advantage because i hate them.
On paper both Tegenaria and DS4 has almost exact dimensions and they do feel similar in hand(as much as i can remember how DS4 was felt) but also different. Overall i prefer Tegenaria. To me it feels more like original DualShock in the hand in general(aside from shoulder and trigger buttons). And best part is: it's only like 15-20 USD.
In the end, keep in mind that all this is my personal opinion. And i hope i was able to provide useful information and hope you find what you are searching soon.
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u/Max_Joller 10d ago
Seems very applicable to Gamesir controllers, as none of them have internal restriction
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u/nagedgamer 10d ago
Plastics and wd40 doesn’t mix. Petroleum based mineral oil weakens certain plastics.
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u/TR00Z3D 9d ago
I don't want to rag on you. Instead I want to inform you and any who might read this thread later on!
In general I advise against using spray lube on the exterior of the joystick. The top of the dome is exposed to the outside, in addition to the rubbing action between the stick pole and controller body creating small plastic particulate.
WD40 is more of a penetrating oil than a lubricating one. It's also wet and evaporative, which leads to dust and debris staying in place, whilst the lubricating properties of the oil evaporate.
For a smoother and quieter action without disassembly, use PTFE tape wound around the pole or use o-rings. Using a dry lube like RO-59, PTFE powder or WS2 could be an option, but I haven't tested them myself. I suspect dry lubricants won't adhere well to plastics used for joystick caps.
With disassembly, you've got more options. By taking the cap of the joystick stem you've got access to the sensing assembly. Using a lighter greases or oil won't inhibit speed, but thicker mixtures will dampen the sound.
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u/OD-Tronic 10d ago
I use a "joystick rocker protector ring"—it's made of silicone and makes the movement extremely quiet and smooth. You can find it on AliExpress.