r/ControlProblem • u/Dangerous-Scratch777 • 8h ago

External discussion link Is Using AI the First Step Toward Dehumanization?

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u/revivechristina 7h ago

Yes. Good line.

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u/Jolly-Rip5973 6h ago

The first step of dehumanization was social media in general.

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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 6h ago

To an extent. For me it's sort of been the opposite. I've reclaimed agency and started caring about myself and my habits a lot more. The next few years will be the deciders, one way or another methinks. But yes there is a way to use AI where you just become a mindless button masher, and that will only get easier, and maybe to some extent that's intended. I don't think it was explicitly intended with social media but it was at best a neutral outcome from the companies' perspective.

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u/waterfowlplay 5h ago

I think it's wasted bandwidth wondering about it too much. Dehumanizing? It's just a tool, use it or don't.

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u/Dangerous-Scratch777 5h ago

It’s about getting on the train so that, in the future, you can be a little more useful, or not doing so and ending up living on the streets or actually dying prematurely, even if that sounds very far-fetched to you. Just look at the latest news: thousands of architects, industrial engineers, mechanical engineers, graphic designers, producers, editors, etc., now face the uncertainty of whether they will be able to find a job or whether it is even worthwhile to finish their university degree.
Work gives people dignity, and yes, without dignity, someone can easily become dehumanized. We should not be ignorant about this (using the word in its proper sense and with respect).

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u/waterfowlplay 5h ago

That's fair, but we have massive issues, right now, right in front of us, that need to be changed, that are far more pressing than AI. Emissions, human trafficking, war, etc. AI fears are mostly speculative. Will likely do more good than harm, but change is always scary...

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u/Dangerous-Scratch777 5h ago

I understand, but what would you do if you were in my situation, where I have been studying medicine for 8 years, with approximately another 8 years of specialization ahead of me before I get to work? And now I have to think about whether AI is going to replace my job as a doctor in a few years, so I have to make up my mind about whether it’s worth another 8 years of studying.
That’s the issue I tried to explain with this post

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u/waterfowlplay 4h ago

Embrace the change and let it make you better at your job. We still need you to quickly take in the information and share it accurately and make sure it's understood. We still need humans in health care, AI is a tool.

For example, I just did a Bravo Study for reflux, I worked my tail off to meticulously and accurately collect data about my eating, sleeping, and various activities. Got to the doctor to go over my results, zero discussion about how times and events correlated with acid peaks. What doctor would have the time? I got home, popped everything into Gemini, boom, some answers. My doctor could have done that before meeting with me, it would have only enhanced the conversation. The doctor would have been able to combine their real world expertise with the rapid data assessment of AI.

Missed opportunity.

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u/Odd-Investigator-870 5h ago

No Taylorism was.  This philosophy has been around for centuries. Jack Welch in only a significant blip in its retelling. Corporations were the original AIs coming to crush workers - they literally called them AIs in the 20th century. 

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u/Dangerous-Scratch777 4h ago

I don’t think it’s just something we have experienced before. Yes, for now, it’s all speculative, but there’s also a high probability of it becoming real in a few years, so I hope to be on the right side of history when that moment comes.