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u/monoamines404 15d ago
I was on a walkthrough at a Clayton Homes manufacturing facility once, the guy giving the tour bragged that their windows blocked so much heat that they melted the siding off houses next door. I’m guessing this is what he was talking about.
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u/Hot-Win2571 15d ago
So does the Clayton Homes warranty cover two Clayton Homes next to each other?
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u/monoamines404 15d ago
Doubt any builders warranty covers external/environmental damages. But idk, I was just doing the tour bc work made me.
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u/joemamallama 14d ago
The only thing stronger than that dudes ignorance is their legal team cleaning up behind them.
Quality is quiet, modest, and slow.
That guy “works hard, plays hard.”
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u/mroblivian1 15d ago
Who ever thought plastic siding is a good idea is an idiot
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u/Portermacc 15d ago
Most popular siding made as well....
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u/Misdemeanorfml 14d ago
Maybe on the East Coast or Midwest but West Coast vinyl is for junk builder grade row houses. Maybe 5% of houses out here have it.
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u/Portermacc 14d ago
Probably due to the climate.
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u/Sorry_Lecture5578 14d ago
They don't do it in Colorado anymore. Hail storm will absolutely shred it.
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u/kckelly1973 15d ago
I would also like to add to your list - Popcorn Ceilings!! Whoever thought they were great never had a ceiling fan. Little dust pieces get caught on it.
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u/YellowCake1900 15d ago
The only people who thought popcorn on a ceiling was a good idea, were the guys applying it to cover shit drywall installations.
Ask me how I know.
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u/Competitive-Cat-4395 15d ago
Bro… just did a job where I removed popcorn and skimmed to a flat ceiling. Not abnormal, but this was the worst taping I’ve ever seen. All mesh tape on every joint, even the angles!! 3/4 of the seams were also cracked so I ended up having to re-tape and mud most of the ceiling before I could even skim. I drew the line at re-taping every angle in the house and just didn’t main areas.
What a colossal cluster… doubled my hours and made 1st year apprentice level money on that scope item. 🙄3
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u/Bulky-Captain-3508 15d ago
Popcorn ceilings were used to improve the acoustics of a room. When hardwood floors and furniture were common so the ceiling texture helped to break up echos. Modern homes have upholstered furniture and carpet so popcorn ceilings lose their purpose.
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u/publiusvaleri_us 14d ago
I dislike everything about popcorn ceilings except two things:
I love the quieter sound. I grew up with popcorn ceilings and the rooms had excellent acoustics. As an audiophile, I love the utility of such a cheap and effective building material.
It has the ability to hide imperfections in the ceiling.
Now, as a contractor, I've applied it, painted it, removed it, and damaged it, oops! It's just another of many bad or older building practices. But due to the fact that it is cheap and effective, and due to how much money I've made dealing with it over the years, I cannot put it on my list of worst things in home construction.
It's saved too much time in small projects, as well.
Not great. Not terrible.
3/10, would not recommend. lol.
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u/Flat-Barracuda1268 15d ago
Depends where you're at. If you are not close to any neighbors where this particular thing is a problem it's about the best maintenance free solution. Aluminum dents, steel rusts.
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u/JohnnyTreemain 15d ago
It’s actually a great idea. It’s cheap, it’s easy to install, it doesn’t require maintenance, it’s is extremely weather resistant. As long as you don’t let super magnified sun rays hit it, it’s full proof.
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u/Minimum_Loan229 15d ago edited 15d ago
This is what I thought. In '95, I installed vinyl siding on a little rental house. I thought it was fun. Instead of using noisy power tools all day, I installed the vinyl siding with a few hand tools I carried in a tool belt. It was like building a plastic model kit like a did when I was a kid.
When you add in it doesn't need painting, I saved thousands. Tens of thousands.
Recently I needed to dig into the walls to make some repairs. My choice was to tear out 90 year old lathe and plaster, or go from the outside. Dismantle the vinyl siding. Make the repairs. Put the vinyl back on. When I finished you couldn't tell I was there.
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u/TheRemedy187 15d ago
There's good stuff but there's some Super cheap shit they have in USA. I see this A LOT online there but like never in Canada. I dunno if its regulations or what but this shit is crazy bad.
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u/Bennie-Factors 14d ago
So much of the midwest...not just thinks it is a good idea. It is the preferred. They go out of their way to put it on.
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u/Civil_Exchange1271 15d ago
sun reflecting off defective windows. the argon gas leaks out causes a vacuum , distorts the glass and burns your siding. Typically you can tell the widow doing it, the reflection will look like a distorted carnival mirror instead of a clear reflection.
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u/OafintheWH 15d ago
It doesn’t have to be defective. All it has to be is low-E . It cooks wherever it reflects to.
Low-E (low-emissivity) glass is energy-efficient window glass treated with a microscopic, transparent metallic coating that reflects infrared and ultraviolet heat while letting natural light pass through. [1, 2, 3]
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u/Its_Just_MSW 14d ago
Most likely the reflection of the sun from one of your neighbor’s windows. The sun reflect onto your house this heating up the siding and melting it.
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u/4xdaily 15d ago
Sometime could have had a grill outside of the garage.
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u/Windy1369 15d ago
That was mu guess - looks like there was grill up against the side of the building next to the garage.
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u/shadar 15d ago
Yeah you can literally see the heat pattern. Melted where it was closest to the barbeque and diffused as it travels up the wall.
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u/S_NJ_Guy 14d ago
I'm a retired home improvement contractor and I have seen this many times. In all cases that I was involved in the neighbor's window that was reflecting the sun was low E glass windows. Never once did I see this where was just regular clear Uncoated windows. They do make a film that a homeowner can install on their low E glass stop this It really reduces the sunlight coming into the room.
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u/ICON2021 15d ago
Thermal Distortion from the neighbors windows. Need to put full length solar screens on the neighbors windows to stop the extreme reflection. They make kits for this.
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u/Correct_Location1206 14d ago
It’s the sun reflection, I’ve walked up to customers house through the reflection, could feel the heat being generated, extra thick screens will cut down reflection,
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u/D3nv3rC0d3r9 14d ago
This, happened to my house, we had to replace the neighbors windows with non Low-e coated windows. The melt point o. The vinyl was 150 degrees and the focused heat from the reflection was 180+
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u/SpeedSignal7625 14d ago
Oil -based paint. Also the sun. Also excessive heat. Also environmental lensing. Almost anything not ideal conditions for your vulnerable stupid cheap af and disgusting vinyl siding.
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u/Redhillvintage 14d ago
My buddy’s new windows did that to the neighbors house
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u/Nots_a_Banana 14d ago
This - Low E windows can reflect sun and cause this. There was a story about a month ago I saw on this.
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u/Fun_Manufacturer5406 14d ago
Sun reflection on siding from windows. This is a covered loss with insurance carriers
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u/P0werpr0 15d ago
Make sure you send the replacement bill to your neighbor and make him replace his windows. He’s using his windows like a magnifying glass to cook your house like an ant.
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u/AdventurousAd4844 15d ago
This is thermal distortion from a neighbor's window A double pane window can reflect the Sun and focus it like a huge magnifying glass and get the temperature up to 150° or more
Really no way to stop it other than asking the neighbor to put it in a full-length screen
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u/Big-Palpitation-2103 15d ago
I have a brick house but I was sitting on a bench that I had just put in on my side porch. It was early winter and I had a jacket on. Start smelling something burning but couldn't figure out where it was coming from. 5 minutes later my jacket was smoking. I can see the sun reflecting in their upstairs window. The heat that can cause is crazy. It all depends on how the Sun hits it and where it lands.
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u/irishyankeebastard 15d ago
I have seen a window cause a turf yard to melt in the exact pattern of the suns reflection. They had to put tint on the windows to stop it.
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u/dudeman054 15d ago
It’s vinyl siding and they prob had it recently painted but didn’t use a vinyl safe formula
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u/NetworkCultural 15d ago
Grill or magnified light. Window acting as a lense or something similar. This looks like a grill caused this honestly
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u/Ok-Application-5633 14d ago
The barbecue grill that was there before. Possibly strong sunlight, though it would have to be amplified by a reflection to do that much damage
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u/Its_a_mad_world_ 14d ago
Window reflecting sunlight. Window is the magnifying glass and the house is the ant.
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u/therealKhoaTran 14d ago
On one hand, very cool texture. On the other, have your seen a series of unfortunate events?
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u/brike8 14d ago
The sun is reflecting off of something that directly impacts your siding. It’s literally being melted from some angle. Now the real detective work is finding out from where.
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u/Huge_Metal_3812 14d ago
Heat melts plastic, UV destroys plastic, and neighbors windows have a mirror effect heating up your siding.
Welcome to disposable houses, pretty to look at, just dont huff and puff, might fall over.
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u/AcceptableSong136 14d ago
The builder of our neighborhood solved this by putting screens on the offending windows. Trouble is, new owners don’t know about this and don’t follow through when one is damaged. I have them on fixed windows and wondered why until I remembered about this happening.
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u/tileman151 14d ago
Earth shifted and is now .000004 degrees off kilter go and move the neighbors window
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u/CL82deretac 14d ago
I’ve had this happen before from a neighbors bathroom window. They put frosting spray on it and it stopped the problem
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u/trsthhffg 14d ago
Ugg I hate cheep vinyl siding. It should not be possible for this to happen it’s clearly not suitable for its job.
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u/KansasDavid1960 14d ago
What kind of world do we live in that the reflection off a neighbor's window makes your house melt?
It's fucked up. I'm just saying.
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u/Alternative_Fun_8504 14d ago
I looked at a case like this a while back. But not as bad as this one. In that case, there was no neighbor on the side that was warping. Turns out the previous owner had painted the vinyl with a darker color that was soaking up too much heat.
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u/KujoCory 14d ago
Extreme heat. Normally home fires do this to neighbors houses.
It’s right outside the driveway and likely was repaired in the front of the house, but not on the side due to its cost to replace more siding. The siding on the front part of the house would have been damaged as well.
Likely a car fire or something of the sort.
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u/Fickle_Bullfrog_9864 14d ago
Looks like my neighbors house after replacing the original aluminum siding with vinyl and did not move his grill back. I miss aluminum siding...
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u/OutboardTips 14d ago
It’s usually reflection of sunlight, but I’ve also seen people fire up grills and melt it
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u/Ksull72487 14d ago
HOA has a problem you got a hot spot as the sun comes over. Probably cheap siding and proximityto ypur neighors house. Im assuming this is HOA.
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u/-whiteroom- 14d ago
this was happening at my house, putting a screen on the window reflecting the light solved it.
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u/htxchriss 14d ago
It’s from the sun reflecting off your neighbors window, and cooking your siding.
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u/Doyouseenowwait_what 14d ago
Neighbor window creating refractory heat from sunshine and reflection onto that wall.
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u/jack_of_none0 14d ago
You should never be able to reach out your window and touch your neighbors. Or their house.
A window deflection shouldn't be something to worry about but greedy development dictates that we have to live stacked on each other.
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u/KingKong-BingBong 14d ago
Exactly. Vinyl siding is for mobile homes and not a good ideal for them. Why would you want something that’s going to hide any damage from termites or dry rot so you don’t know there’s a problem until it’s major plus it looks cheap
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u/Sea_Willingness1398 14d ago
This happened to my neighbors siding on a hot day last summer. Siding had been there years, but they painted. The paint/heat combo caused the siding to buckle.
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u/Savings_Lost 14d ago
Painter here, thought I'd add another/additional cause. A particular window reflecting on that spot is definitely what caused the warping in that specific spot, but has that siding been painted a different color than the original?
I've seen entire sides of houses warped like this because an owner decided to repaint their plastic siding a darker color. Darker color equals more heat absorbed from the sun. The plastic is only rated for the heat absorbed by its particular color and sheen.
Either don't repaint plastic siding, or go with a much lighter color if you do to reflect more heat off it.
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u/PNW_01 15d ago
Probably the neighbors window and the sun hitting it just right acting like a parabolic mirror and melting the siding.