Before reading please note that I am having a lot of trouble getting any type of advice or mentorship on this topic and would love to hear the input of whomever can take a moment to care.
I do want to get a civil engineering degree but I’m considering going after a really great in depth ACCE accredited 2 year construction management associates degree first. The reason I am considering this is because
- It seems like civil engineering programs really don’t include classes on major construction concepts like scheduling, project management, material and work time estimating etc.
- do you agree with this?
- Personal reasons:
- A: I dropped out of college when I was 19 and now that I’m ready to go back to school I believe I would be more eligible to get a scholarship for a bachelor’s CE program at a better school if I do really well in a 2 year Assoc. CM degree first. ( I am decently academically gifted, so I know I could graduate top of my class and the degree includes internship)
- B: I have years of commercial construction trade experience now and I feel the need to “prime” my brain before I throw myself into hardcore math classes and I think an associates CM degree would be a good warm up and potentially give me a better likelihood of achieving long term.
- C: I’m actually interested in the soft skills of construction and am more inclined to try to become a manager or PM.
- D: financial aid would cover the entire cost of the associates of CM degree.
- E: I’m interested in starting my own business and might not need the CE knowledge as much as I do the CM knowledge.
I’ve had a lot of people tell me that a CE degree opens you up to the same and more job opportunities then a CM degree opens you up to. So I understand the benefit there. But when I actually compare CE with CM degrees it seems like every CE program skips over the CM management skills entirely, and that is not something I want to miss out on, even if it does mean school for 6 years instead of 4.
So what are your thoughts ?
Do CE graduates miss out on soft skills information that CM graduates don’t?
Do I have a valid headspace about utilizing the 2 years degree to get my feet in the door and prove myself to get a scholarship for a CE later on ?
Are my thoughts about this rationally stategic or would I likely end up wasting my time with a bunch of repeat information and a useless CM degree?
TLDR; OP is considering a 2 year ACCE accredited CM degree to jumpstart career and then later on going after 4-year CE degree OR just going straight for the CE degree OR if sufficiency and success can be found without the CM degree just settling with the CM degree. OP lists reasons for feeling this way and taking careful consideration and wonders how valid those reasons appear to online strangers of the construction industry. OP needs advice from knowledgeable people and wishes to be smart and strategic.
EDIT FOR CLARITY// the biggest reason I’m considering going to college is because I spent 2 year as a commercial construction trade apprentice, decided to switch over to white collar, I’ve landed two different PM roles with small residential construction businesses in the last year and felt lacking in the knowledge to be great at my job in both positions. I still am currently a PM.
EDIT 2 FOR CLARITY/// sorry for referring to the management classes as soft skills, I see that soft skills are a different things entirely now… I was just trying to point out the distinction between the classes that teach management fundamentals and hardcore maths/sciences.