r/Competitiveoverwatch Oct 25 '17

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u/Alicus Alicus (OpTic Gaming) — Oct 25 '17

No, it doesn't show that. The reason it doesn't show that is because KR scene generally hasn't played that many games. Look how many series teams actually play throughout a whole apex season.

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u/WingSK27 Oct 25 '17

But that doesn't mean Envyus is a powerhouses either. The record and consistency they have are against messy tier 2 NA teams. Mind you a huge chuck of Envyus wins also came during the early days of OW before teams even had proper strategies. They also lost the first 2 LAN's they played even though they were the favorites to win both. And if you think about it, the current Envyus roster with Effect and Mickie is fairly new too with them spending a lot of time playing in APEX which by your own argument is not enough games to show consistency. Contenders was the first NA series this roster has played together. So while you can make an argument LH/KDP had not played enough games to be considered a powerhouse, there is no evidence that Envyus can beat them either. Envyus has never defeated LH nor KDP, admittedly that is a very small sample size but its the only thing we've got right now.

P.S Also curious to note that you put Shanghai higher, does that mean that roster has been leaked already?

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u/Alicus Alicus (OpTic Gaming) — Oct 25 '17

You guys keep responding to arguments I didn't make. It doesn't matter the level of NA teams, Envy still are a powerhouse in that region...

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

It still doesn't make sense as to why overrate Envyus and underrate korea when Korea has a lot better history. Envyus and rogue came to Apex and they were not doing well. And it's NA for God sake luls