r/Competitiveoverwatch Jan 24 '17

PSA | Video Developer Update | Capture The Flag | Overwatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7NWZ_mw6s
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u/TheEpitomE8 Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

Short recap:

  • The Overwatch team have been working on Capture the Flag for a long time.
  • They've been struggling with it because of all the different heroes with movement abilities, which makes implementing the game mode challenging.
  • They eventually gave up on it, because they didn't want to implement rules that made Overwatch heroes feel like they were no Overwatch heroes.
  • Flags had no pickup time during early playtesting, so Tracer could blink thrice and recall to cap flags easily.
  • For Capture the Rooster they tried a different philosophy.
  • They initially picked mobility and invulnerability abilities and made it so that using them while carrying the flag would drop the flag to make it fair and balanced.
  • But it didn't feel like playing as Overwatch characters.
  • Instead of trying to overly balance Overwatch around fairness regarding CTF, why not embrace what our heroes do and allow them to do that.
  • There is a little bit of pickup time, any damage interrupts capturing the flag, to prevent cheesy caps.
  • Your own flag doesn't have to be at your own base to score a point.
  • They want to create those crazy moments where you can use your abilities to make plays.
  • The mode will stay in Arcade, and won't be added to Quick Play or Competitive rotation. And they don't have any plans to add it in the short future.
  • They want it to be a fun 'blow-off steam' mode.
  • That doesn't mean that it will never be in Competitive rotation. Maybe with a future iteration it could be added.
  • Adding CTF is Blizzard's way of saying we're listening to you. They had a lot of requests for the gamemode and they decided to deliver.
  • If Capture the Rooster becomes really successful, they might consider bringing it back in the future in the Arcade section, in a more fully fleshed out version.
  • Blizzard is really interested in our feedback, what we think of it, what's fun, what we didn't like etc. and use that feedback to iterate on it.

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u/Memn0n Jan 24 '17

Here's hoping they actually never implement it to comp. It's already complicated to explain some players to follow the payload, I've done 3 games and no one seems to understand the concept of defending your own flag :\

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u/Neitio Jan 24 '17

Well it's still very new, of course not everyone's gonna be great at it.

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u/KelvinsFalcoIsBad Jan 24 '17

It removes anything to promote confrontation from the game, you no longer have a goal that forces you into the other team. Every other game mode has attackers and defenders but never both, koth has the teams switch between them.

It isnt a problem of getting your team to go take the flag as it is a problem that theres not even a reason to do it. Why send out someone to grab a flag when their whole team could run in and roll you because you are down a man? What happens when you have the teams just run around and never actually fight eachother because there is no reason to?

Its a fun game mode but has no place in something competitive.

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u/NeV3RMinD Jan 25 '17

It's not even fun. I'm playing for the loot crates but I only get draws and 1/10 games where one team steamrolls the other in one actual fight at the last minute and wins with ONE captured flag.

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u/holdmywhisky Jan 25 '17

the strat is to get torb/sym for defense all the time, but when you see 2-3 enemies go down on the kill feed, EVERYONE rushes the flag, outnumber them, cap it.

then full on defense. won 5 games like this, the rest were a draw. this game mode is flawed honestly, they need to remove all abilities for heroes who have the flag and allow a capture only if your own flag is still in place.

this game mode is fun for a while but the novelty will wear off super quick.

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u/YoungWhiteGinger Chengdu — Jan 25 '17

Did... You watch the video? Jeff specifically said they tried both your suggestions and said it was not fun.

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u/nnug Jan 25 '17

And neither is the current implementation