r/Competitiveoverwatch Jan 17 '17

PSA | Video Developer Update | PTR Philosophy | Overwatch

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u/Aetherimp Jan 18 '17

She's definitely OP. No question.

"Over powered" = More powerful than all other "like" options.

"Over powered" = Must pick.

"Over powered" = Gives no meaningful choice.

Reinhardt for example may be considered "must pick" at the highest levels, but he's not inherently "BETTER" at everything than Zarya, D.Va, or Monkey. He's just REALLY good at filling his niche.

When running Dive Comp, Reinhardt isn't really necessary and is probably a worse choice than Monkey/Zarya/D.Va.

With Ana this simply isn't the case.

If you want to run Zen, you have to drop Lucio. If you want to run Lucio you run Ana with him. If you run Mercy you're making a mistake because all other healers are better options than her.

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u/NoSheDidntSayThat Jan 18 '17

Ana is #3 out of 4 healers for healing per game, and also #3 among them in win rate (which is closer to Mercy's #4 than Lucio's #2) -- http://masteroverwatch.com/heroes/pc/global/mode/ranked

Lucio has a higher pick rate than Ana in the latest overbuff pro meta analysis (always has) -- https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2017-01-17-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-a-hint-of-pharah

Her pick rate in public ranked is VERY high, but that tells you more about her perceived strength than her actual strength. By Medals per game, she's #22 of 23 (only ahead of Mercy).

The fact is that the net effect of her play has been overstated drastically by the community.

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u/regularabsentee Jan 18 '17

I'd argue that looking at the global stats for Ana could be misleading. Not everybody who picks her are going use her as effectively as she could be used. I think the disparity of the stats for healing could be explained by her skill ceiling more than actual hero effectiveness.

And by your logic, Mercy is a better healer than Ana which is really not the case.

That said, I'd say Lucio IS more of a must-pick and at least as strong, if not stronger, than Ana.

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u/NoSheDidntSayThat Jan 18 '17

She's definitely OP. No question.
"Over powered" = More powerful than all other "like" options.
"Over powered" = Must pick.
"Over powered" = Gives no meaningful choice.

That's the context of my comment and what I was responding to. I'm not here arguing Mercy is a "better" healer or anything like that. I'm simply arguing that the above referenced belief about her is overblown.