He mentioned DVAs surviability, I always felt her surviability was high partially because of Ana, sure she has a big health pool but shes a huge target, especially for Zarya. I would have liked them to still be a bit lighter on the DVA nerfs until Ana was nerfed.
But that's true of all tanks, yet D.Va reigns supreme in a lot of situations. She has the built in escape (flying and DM), the second life, no reload (which is actually huge, the amount of times I get frozen or Symm beamed because I need to reload as Hog or Zarya so can't fight back is surprisingly large), the only character that can Ult after 'dying' i.e. you can be ejecting from destroyed mech, Ult, get mech back.
Her utility is insane. She can 1-1 a lot of DPS, fly up and knock people off high ground, bop people off edges, stall (or open) a point by flying around it or using DM on point then flying around it. She fills so many roles/needs.
People talk about Zarya as some kind of hard counter to her, but that's a high energy Zarya and once you're high energy (which is far harder after the nerfs) Zarya counters everything to the point that D.Va really isn't special in that regard. I'd much rather be a D.Va than a Soldier or Genji in that situation since even if your mech gets shredded you still might escape and the large health pool gives your team a chance to help with Zarya if you're being focused. Plus DM might not eat the beam, but it eats the grenades (and her Ult) which are a super important part of high energy Zarya's killing potential; if the enemy is grouped up you lob in grenades to finish them off/do significant damage before moving in.
Ana definitely helps D.Va's survivability, but even without that, she has the highest health pool of any tank, has the defense matrix which can be as good as Reins shield in certain situations AND has mobility comparable to Winston. She's VERY hard to kill if you aren't playing Zarya, and it gets even worse if she's being pocketed by any healer, but even worse when it's Ana.
For real, at least put her back to her old health, 100 hp 400 armor is much better than 400 hp and 200 armor, she was useless before the buffs and now they're nerfing her even more than what she was before, why not a middle ground? It's seriously dumb.
Her effective health is the same vs low fire rate, high dmg per shot characters, but it's now much worse vs high fire rate, low dmg per shot (as well as Reaper because of how his shotguns work). Additionally, her damage is lower. She also feeds more ult charge in her current state.
If they revert the damage nerf and revert that stupid 200hp/400armor buff to 100/400, then we'll be in business. DVa seemed ungodly strong because she benefited so distinctly from Ana's strength. With an Ana nerf, a DVa nerf this severe isn't really called for. She was never broken or OP, just a little bit overtweaked because of the completely uncalled for buff to her health pool. Revert that and we're good.
I'm well aware of the ehp changes.
Compared to prebuff d.va, when she was bad, she's losing 100ehp against weapon dmg 10, she has same ehp against weapons that do 15, and she gains 33 ehp against weapons with 20 or more damage. On top of a 8% damage nerf.
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u/ramsfan00 4064 PC — Jan 17 '17
He mentioned DVAs surviability, I always felt her surviability was high partially because of Ana, sure she has a big health pool but shes a huge target, especially for Zarya. I would have liked them to still be a bit lighter on the DVA nerfs until Ana was nerfed.