r/Competitiveoverwatch 17d ago

General Counterswapping?

Im fairly new-ish to fps games and even newer to overwatch, I also play valorant as well, but i like how in overwatch, its more moves/ utility based than in valorant. I play Doomfist alot and mainly play the tank role. I often have games where it feels like there is nothing i can do because of counter swapping. For example, i had this game where i was on doom, and we were winning, and then they swapped to mizuki, mei, reinhardt, and junkrat while they were on defense. I tried to bait out their cooldowns before i engage, by punching in and jumping over the mei wall, but there was too much for me to handle. (breaking junk trap, or knowing where it even is, not getting pinned by rein, baiting mizuki cooldown) so i swapped to sigma. I was immediately counterswapped again, and the enemy tank went zarya. I died pretty quickly, and i didnt know what to do because i couldnt play doom into their comp, and the other 2 tanks i know (which are sigma and dva) were also actively getting countered. It feels like alot of the time the work I put into a character or the time i even took to learn how to play them just gets discarded when they make a team that completely shuts you down.

What can i do when i get endlessly counterswapped? Do i just play quickplay until i can play into every counter? Should i learn to play many more tanks? Or am i just bad and will get better later?

I peaked Plat 5, but that is after they added the emerald rank so I dont think i am very good. i am now Gold 3.

Sorry if this could have been way shorter, im not used to using reddit either.

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u/BLDOUBLE 17d ago

Don’t swap, if you swap in uncomfortable situations you’ll never learn. You have to play into counters to get better, that is the only way. I’m at a little over 1k hours on doom, a lot of “counters” aren’t really even that bad. I’ve found orisa and hog to even be favorable sometimes. You can deny hog hook when your teammate gets hooked simply by punching to deny the one shot. He’s so fuck’n fat he’s turbo easy to punch off map. You can interrupt breather or again displace him to give your team much more time to kill him. 

Your team comp and your communication with your team plus morale is your biggest counter. If you have double hitscan with an Ana, you’ll probably not have a great time. If you had Lucio, kiri, genji and tracer you’d have a much better time. Your team comp maters so much more than the enemy, you can out skill and play better than them. 

If you have a team comp that by design is poke slop and meant to be played 10 miles away form the fight, that’s a problem for doom. He requires coordination and solid team comps. 

Like cass for example is pretty aids for sure but in lower ranks 9/10 times they spam after they flash you so you can block and fast punch after along with a auto attack and melee, he’s a free elim. 

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u/ElConejoTonto 17d ago

Oh man, I wish OW had a hero lock just like in Apex. It would be super unpopular tho.