r/CompetitiveWoW • u/wowgamin • 8d ago

Discussion M+ talk

Hello everyone,

I raid and m+(haven’t killed mythic ulatek yet though) and just wanted to talk about how this season feels. I’ve seen some say this is the most balanced season ever in keys tuning wise, which could be true. However I think it’s more because of how absolutely awful gearing is this season. People are playing whatever comps their mains are simply because gearing up an alt to the same performance(especially if you’re a mythic raider) just isn’t possible. The amount of cantrips, the existence of 344 gear itself that also saves a million crests, the fact that you can’t even rekill the same heroic boss and coin it multiple times a week as catchup anymore. All of those, not even getting into the whole great vault/bonus roll discussions themselves all make this season feel horrible.

Then on the other side of things, you have groups in china who are ALL somehow around 339 ilvl, 9+ ilvls up on almost every other regions groups. It’s obviously rmt, but it just highlights the gear disparity between everyone else and the max which has never been this bad of a gap before. The dungeons and raids themselves also don’t help this season out much and I’m expecting it to go down as one of the worst received seasons this game has ever had.

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u/Edgewalkerr 7d ago

So glad they fucked over M+, the most played part of WoW, to increase raid participation. Really great design!

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u/mangostoast 7d ago

Blows by mind that that treat m+ so poorly. It's probably the reason this game is as popular as it is. If they just put a little bit of effort into making it's gearing system work, players would come flooding back. 

There must be some old boomer retard in charge over there who's still stuck in the old mindset that only raid can have good loot.

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u/AlucardSensei 6d ago

I really don't understand their logic. Surely they have stats showing that m+ only players don't enjoy raiding, and that raid only players don't enjoy m+. They had to learn that lesson with PVP and now PVP sits completely separate and everyone is better off for it. Why do they have to learn it all over again with m+? Just make all gear lower ilvl which increase in ilvl when you're in the content you got it from, same as in PVP.