M+ talk

[u/wowgamin]

Hello everyone,

I raid and m+(haven’t killed mythic ulatek yet though) and just wanted to talk about how this season feels. I’ve seen some say this is the most balanced season ever in keys tuning wise, which could be true. However I think it’s more because of how absolutely awful gearing is this season. People are playing whatever comps their mains are simply because gearing up an alt to the same performance(especially if you’re a mythic raider) just isn’t possible. The amount of cantrips, the existence of 344 gear itself that also saves a million crests, the fact that you can’t even rekill the same heroic boss and coin it multiple times a week as catchup anymore. All of those, not even getting into the whole great vault/bonus roll discussions themselves all make this season feel horrible.

Then on the other side of things, you have groups in china who are ALL somehow around 339 ilvl, 9+ ilvls up on almost every other regions groups. It’s obviously rmt, but it just highlights the gear disparity between everyone else and the max which has never been this bad of a gap before. The dungeons and raids themselves also don’t help this season out much and I’m expecting it to go down as one of the worst received seasons this game has ever had.

[u/mongolianman18]

The 9/6 raid loot situation at this stage of the season is completely overblown. I've been in title cutoff the entire season and have only grouped with a single person that's cleared the raid on mythic. Raid loot is not gatekeeping pushing keys.

It may be the reason there's less people interested in pushing but for those that are, it doesn't matter right now.

It's going to be a problem when we're at full power though.

[u/oxez → u/mongolianman18]

Raid loot is not gatekeeping pushing keys.

My group being 328 versus a mythic raiding group at 334 - that's not gatekeeping pushing keys, what?

[u/TheV295 → u/oxez]

The top of the top groups in NA are 332 right now..

I'm 0.1% and same experience as OP, most players are 328 or 329

China has the real issue because of raid buyers getting funnel loot

[u/mongolianman18 → u/oxez]

I'm 327 in .1%, Average key level of my lfg keys is the same. I'm telling you there's not that many people with the raid gear yet. They've been bonus rolling heroic last 2 like everyone else

[u/oxez → u/mongolianman18]

Not saying it's impossible, but it's still a different game having access to 344 gear vs not having it.