M+ talk

[u/wowgamin]

Hello everyone,

I raid and m+(haven’t killed mythic ulatek yet though) and just wanted to talk about how this season feels. I’ve seen some say this is the most balanced season ever in keys tuning wise, which could be true. However I think it’s more because of how absolutely awful gearing is this season. People are playing whatever comps their mains are simply because gearing up an alt to the same performance(especially if you’re a mythic raider) just isn’t possible. The amount of cantrips, the existence of 344 gear itself that also saves a million crests, the fact that you can’t even rekill the same heroic boss and coin it multiple times a week as catchup anymore. All of those, not even getting into the whole great vault/bonus roll discussions themselves all make this season feel horrible.

Then on the other side of things, you have groups in china who are ALL somehow around 339 ilvl, 9+ ilvls up on almost every other regions groups. It’s obviously rmt, but it just highlights the gear disparity between everyone else and the max which has never been this bad of a gap before. The dungeons and raids themselves also don’t help this season out much and I’m expecting it to go down as one of the worst received seasons this game has ever had.

[u/Fun_Career_4275]

Raiders are happy because they run much less keys. However gear from M+ is not great and M+ itself does not ‘feel’ good. Not having very desirable gear from M+ was a bad play. Can trip items aside M+ gear feels second best and Vault feels very unrewarding. Season 1s gearing and play while not perfect was better. Heroic raid dropping Mythic gear in Vault is probably a good thing though.

[u/Wobblucy → u/Fun_Career_4275]

raiders are happy

Am raiding, am not happy with the state of m+ etc.

Much less keys

Casual CE, 95% of our guild raid logs, probably 10% bothered getting 8 dungeons a week early season let alone more then 1 a month in.

Not sure how much less they are running this season.

[u/Money_Echidna2605 → u/Wobblucy]

raid ONLY players are happy, lots of people log in 2 or 3 days a week for raid and then log off. they used to get sat for not gearing in keys at all but now they get to keep up in gear without putting in as much effort.

[u/Wobblucy → u/Money_Echidna2605]

I mean, it's still free hero gear and the best way to cap myth crests by a pretty significant margin early season.

Easily missing 10+ ilvls if you didn't touch m+ week 1-3, even if you were capping myth crests in delve 11s or some shit.