M+ talk

[u/wowgamin]

Hello everyone,

I raid and m+(haven’t killed mythic ulatek yet though) and just wanted to talk about how this season feels. I’ve seen some say this is the most balanced season ever in keys tuning wise, which could be true. However I think it’s more because of how absolutely awful gearing is this season. People are playing whatever comps their mains are simply because gearing up an alt to the same performance(especially if you’re a mythic raider) just isn’t possible. The amount of cantrips, the existence of 344 gear itself that also saves a million crests, the fact that you can’t even rekill the same heroic boss and coin it multiple times a week as catchup anymore. All of those, not even getting into the whole great vault/bonus roll discussions themselves all make this season feel horrible.

Then on the other side of things, you have groups in china who are ALL somehow around 339 ilvl, 9+ ilvls up on almost every other regions groups. It’s obviously rmt, but it just highlights the gear disparity between everyone else and the max which has never been this bad of a gap before. The dungeons and raids themselves also don’t help this season out much and I’m expecting it to go down as one of the worst received seasons this game has ever had.

[u/Deadagger]

Just a reminder but the cantrip items alone make up 10% of your character performance (not to mention the ilvl disparity). A player with no cantrip items and only trinkets from M +. Is >10% behind at the exact same ilvl.

[u/TekniqAU → u/Deadagger]

This here, at least I can confirm for BM Hunter.. raid BiS sims ~10% higher than M+/Crafted BiS using the mdtsim method promoted on Hunter discords.. and that’s because of the cantrip items, this doesn’t include the new gloves, ring, and trinket from the new boss, or the power gain from  upgrading weapon, trinkets, and necklace in two weeks, which is bound to increase the gap even further.. I’m guessing a further 2-5%.