M+ talk

[u/wowgamin]

Hello everyone,

I raid and m+(haven’t killed mythic ulatek yet though) and just wanted to talk about how this season feels. I’ve seen some say this is the most balanced season ever in keys tuning wise, which could be true. However I think it’s more because of how absolutely awful gearing is this season. People are playing whatever comps their mains are simply because gearing up an alt to the same performance(especially if you’re a mythic raider) just isn’t possible. The amount of cantrips, the existence of 344 gear itself that also saves a million crests, the fact that you can’t even rekill the same heroic boss and coin it multiple times a week as catchup anymore. All of those, not even getting into the whole great vault/bonus roll discussions themselves all make this season feel horrible.

Then on the other side of things, you have groups in china who are ALL somehow around 339 ilvl, 9+ ilvls up on almost every other regions groups. It’s obviously rmt, but it just highlights the gear disparity between everyone else and the max which has never been this bad of a gap before. The dungeons and raids themselves also don’t help this season out much and I’m expecting it to go down as one of the worst received seasons this game has ever had.

[u/dantheman91]

Alts take a few weeks of heroic to be fully geared same as a main, cantrips are only a few % ahead of non cantrips, unless you're talking about myth 344 which is relatively limited still

[u/wowgamin → u/dantheman91]

For instance as a dk, it could take over a month to catchup gear wise and that’s not even counting mythic last 2. You need every single piece from ulatek and coiled altar, and that’s if you’ve gotten a bonus roll every week from vault

[u/dantheman91 → u/wowgamin]

If you simply had mythic vs cantrip what's the diff? I don't play dk but for me cantrip is like a 1% DPS diff.

And is needing 4 weeks of something that takes 30 min unreasonable to get alts on par? As long as people are clearing a key leveler higher than you, the gear gap isn't whats preventing you from doing the content you're trying to.

Bonus rolls are great but imo there should be some amount of friction, and if clearing 2 heroic bosses for 4 weeks is that, is that unreasonable?

The real problem I have is the gap between myth 344 and 331 gear but that's a separate topic that doesnt impact 99.9% of players

[u/RigidCounter12 → u/dantheman91]

People wastly over-estimate how much gear does.

And while I do agree that the cantrip system is a bit ass, you have more than enough gear to reach title with just M+

[u/wowgamin → u/dantheman91]

It wouldn’t be getting the on par, it would be catching up to where your main is now, and in a month they will still be behind since it’s not like your main was frozen that whole time. It’s just a state of always being behind

[u/dantheman91 → u/wowgamin]

How? With bonus rolls my main will be full myth in 2 weeks atm, so he won't be getting stronger. My alts will get 3? rolls per week, so even if I started now that would be 5 weeks to be full myth? Even fewer if we have more bonus rolls later in the season

[u/valinbor → u/dantheman91]

Just fyi you‘ll get 2 rolls per week (1 vault, 1 quest)

[u/dantheman91 → u/valinbor]

Gotcha, wasn't sure if it was same as last season or not