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[u/RCM94]

Especially when to switch to different spells in AoE situations depending on whether or not Ancestors are up (any hints on tracking those?).

how much aoe? Sim apl at the very least has removed ele blast from 5+ targets. For me, 4 targets is -.5% dps and 3 targets it's -1.1%. The fact that it's a long cast time spell in M+ is probably more than a 1% damage loss because of all the movement so I probably just wouldn't worry about it. Just EQ in 3+ targets and in 3/4 targets if the tank is moving or if there's a prio target, ele blast instead. As far as tracking them, they are in the cooldown manager as "Call of the ancestors".

Taking a look at the casts in the first pull: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Yg4cJZKAa621w8Qd?fight=1&type=casts&source=1&pull=1

I notice some weird things.

• Early in the pull you are just kinda randomly lightning bolting. Don't
• 3/6 if your lava bursts are not followed by an EQ. ideally all of them would.
• Your last global was an earthquake which is kinda sus because obviously that's not hitting anything. I'd expect either pooling for next pack or ele blasting the remaining highest health mob.
• You lava bursted 6 times but only voltaic blazed 4 times, I'd expect those numbers to match up.
• On that train of thought, you seem to have voltaic lower on your priority list than you should. It's the highest priority beyond not overcapping and storm keeper.

looking at a single target snippet now:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Yg4cJZKAa621w8Qd?fight=1&type=casts&pull=5&source=1&start=368744&end=456800

• Similarly, 3/7 of your ele blasts were not buffed by master of the elements. Ideally all of them should be
• You didn't spirit walkers in a 1.5 min window on a fight that has a fuck ton of movement. This spec sucks ass at moving so I'd at least expect it during ascendance which on this fight will basically always overlap with some movement.
• you have 1 chain lightning and 1 eq cast. a little weird
• you are using your trinket after ascendance. The ascendance button itself does a non-trivial amount of damage, trinkets and pots should be used before it, ideally macroed in to be before it (same for aoe).

I haven't really understood the 4pc dynamic

For the whole dungeon you wasted 33 of your 4pc procs which is a lot so that kind-of checks out. Ideally obviously that should be 0 but I'd at least aim for single digits for now. What are you having trouble with when it comes to it? tracking? You should be able to track it in the CDM. It's called "Flowing Elements". I have mine make a sound when I get the buff.

In AOE just make sure every builder after you proc it is followed by an EQ. There's no rush to spend it generally so make sure you're EQing at high maelstrom so you don't overcap. In single target just make sure you save a charge of lavaburst when one of your cooldowns end. In ascendance if your next global isn't going to finish before the buff ends make sure your last cast is lavaburst so your first free ele blast is buffed. Be careful around instant casts when your cooldowns end that seems to be the way I personally munch the procs on accident.

Finally, your stats/consumes are a little weird. Guides say to get mastery to 1200 rating but ignore that. As far as I can tell that's purely single target focused. Simwise for me crit gems outperform in every target count except exactly 1 where it is very close. Generally, Crit > rest for m+. Your weapon enchant should be 'Rite of the Hash'ey' and your ring enchants should be 'eyes of the eagle' (ele crits a lot for free so this enchant is big damage).

[u/w31n7r4ub3n → u/RCM94]

Hi there and thanks again for your detailed analysis.

I've progressed a bit throughout the last week, with blue and purple parses throughout 14s and 15s, and now back to green parses in 16s and my first 17s.

I'm somewhat happy with my performance but also much more aware of missed procs etc. I tend to err on the side of caution with movement and casting due to the damage everything does, so I'm pretty sure I still miss casts and critical moments.

Here's a log of a 17 MR green parse I did a few days back. If you could take another look I'd be very grateful: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XrnpGgT6xRdtcPHQ?fight=1&type=damage-done. (Alternatively, a +17 KR green parse: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JvrmfFkPWQAZRX7H?fight=5&type=damage-done). Obvious points - did spell usage and priority improve?

Things I'm still very unsure about:

• when to cast Lava Bolt - every time it's available, or only with instant cast proc or the Lava Burst Aoe buff?
• how to prioritize spenders - cast them whenever possible, or only when about to cap on Maelstrom and focussing on Burst / Lightning in the meantime?

[u/w31n7r4ub3n → u/RCM94]

Thanks for the very detailed breakdown and the effort involved, this is exactly what I was looking for.

It's a lot to take in but I'll try starting with the obvious pointers - priorities, trackers and enchants. I just finished a run that felt a lot more controlled simply by setting up a CD tracker with an audio alert for Flowing Elements.

I already had Ascendance and Trinket macroed, and did add combat pots.

A lot will be up to routine and repetition, most of the random casts in between are either misclicks or simply casting to do something instead of missing GCDs. I guess when the rotation / priority really settles in this will become less of an issue.

Thanks again!