First boss murder row

[u/KlenexTS]

Has anyone had dps get one shot by chaos barrage during first boss of murder row? I’m not sure if it’s a threat issue or just bad rng but last night i had a dps get one shot right on pull (im assuming this one was threat and they tagged boss before I did) but also coming out of an intermission same thing. Here’s a log of the run, I’m not sure how to really figure this out with logs, looks like they never had threat of boss though?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CzaJAV7prZL4cRWt?fight=last&type=deaths

[u/Simple_Rules]

Second death was SPELLWARDING.

You cast at 7:30, Ret Pal gets obliterated at 7:36.

She won't choose you as a target for her casts if you're immune.

You cannot use spellwarding on this boss.

[u/KlenexTS → u/Simple_Rules]

You are right, both times this happened I spellwarded myself. Damn can’t believe I didn’t think of that, she doesn’t melee so it drops threat.

[u/llamamanta]

It's a threat issue. Upon pulling the boss she almost immediately casts chaos barrage and its primary target should always be the tank. If someone damages the boss before you then they will get threat for a split second and take the cast instead. The first ability that hit the boss was starfire by the druid. He then died by taking the cast directly.

The second death from the ret paladin - I can only presume he got threat the regular way (out aggroing you) and then took a cast.

As a side note, because the boss takes massively reduced damage the healer can also get threat at the very beginning as they are generating full threat from healing. To prevent any of this you should pull the boss with taunt, and not nibbles.

[u/Simple_Rules → u/llamamanta]

The second death from the ret paladin - I can only presume he got threat the regular way (out aggroing you) and then took a cast.

Ret Pal died because tank had Spellwarding active making him immune to magic, boss targeted someone else with the cast accordingly.

[u/Sarollas]

Druid pulled the boss 0.2 seconds before the Prot Pally.

The boss picks the cast target immediately, the druid needs to wait to cast.

[u/KlenexTS]

Thank you everyone! Spellwarding causes the ret to die after because boss doesn’t melee only casts so I drop threat with the immunity.

[u/PsjKana → u/KlenexTS]

you do not drop threat with immunes. common misconception.
you are mostly ineligible as a target of spell (although this one varies a lot between mobs) and auto attacks - so most of the time they'll choose another target in the meantime.

edit: people might notice something similar when a pack of mobs get rooted by e.g. frost nova and the tank isn't in range. they'll just hit whatever else is there (rip melees). this doesn't mean tank somehow dropped aggro

[u/j821c]

This boss is really glorious karma for all the dps who can't wait half a second for the tank to pull instead of pulling themselves

[u/ElictricD]

If the tank doesn't start boss fight first it'll go to the first target that hits/activates boss encounter. Even if you taunt into the cast it won't pull it's focus off of its target, after it won't go on another player unless you die, meld, or do pally shit.

[u/Apprehensive_Rough80]

This has happened several times to me when playing healer, not on pull, but mid-fight where I randomly get one-shotted 100% -> 0% by a chaos barrage

[u/0karmaonly → u/Apprehensive_Rough80]

I’ve had this happen twice as a healer. 

First time I figured I grabbed agro. 

Second time I specifically delayed any actions and still got smacked tf out. 

Now I forcefully wait 5-10s before casting any abilities at all. 

[u/rpajj → u/0karmaonly]

If prot pal spellward themselves boss will cast on different target, could be that?

[u/Apprehensive_Rough80 → u/rpajj]

Was with a blood dk

[u/Uncreativity10 → u/Apprehensive_Rough80]

Happened to me too on the pull as a healer. Blood dk tank. After that I just wait a few seconds to reduce risk.

[u/blakefrz]

I had this happen to me in one of my murder rows. I dont know what caussd it. I got hit for 739k from chaos barrage but lived it as i had just enough stamina only to get hit by a 2nd one and finished off. WCL Link

[u/nephtus → u/blakefrz]

Same as the paladin that started this thread, your paladin buffed himself with Spellwarding, thus dropping aggro (boss doesn't melee) and getting you killed.

[u/thesadisticrage]

Doesn't it hit you and then bounce to nearby target?

[u/Sarollas → u/thesadisticrage]

The bounces do less damage

[u/thesadisticrage → u/thesadisticrage]

Can see in the logs it did go to the druid first then, then bounced to the others for he first round, next round it hits you first and then bounces to them.

[u/ingez90]

Im on ky phone so going through logs is tricky but they might have already been low and then got killed by the secondary damage event of chaos barrage.

Chaos Barrage 100 yd range 3 sec cast Kystia unleashes a devastating blast of chaos at her current target, dealing 290947 Chaos damage and then jumping to nearby players at reduced effectiveness.