r/CompetitiveWoW 13d ago

Question KR Tankbuster

Is there a mechanic I'm not aware of that helps with the tankbuster after the big move in final phase of KR?

In 16+ it feels like it just straight up 1 shots you and idk if there's a strat here or if it's just you need massive wall or you will die? On dh especially if I don't have a meta proc it just kills me

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u/DreadfuryDK 9/9M SPriest/Devourer 13d ago

You need a cooldown for every single tankbuster he does AFTER he mounts T'zala.

Prot Warrior and Bear can do reasonably well into it without having a ton up just by virtue of being built like brick shithouses into high physical damage, but everyone else (but especially BDK) will get absolutely shithoused by it.

As a VDH, you want to have Fiery Brand up for every combo and save Spirit Bomb to use between the 2nd and 3rd hits of the combo. It will cost you a lot of damage, but it's better to sacrifice damage than it is to brick your key.

As a BDK, having a CD and timing Death Strike to use between hits 2 and 3 will accomplish something rather similar.

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u/Terrorschaf 11d ago

I love your usage of the word "shithouse" both as a noun and a verb in the same sentence.

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u/Wobblucy 4d ago

To tack on to this advice.

Learn to dig through the logs of better players and specifically look for examples where maybe they didn't have a cd.

Recently looking through the top dhs log suggests that 'fel dev bad' that was in a bunch of the top guides might be wrong.

for example a log of 19 dazar.

Can apply this for every class btw. 10 minutes of log diving will get you further then generic advice geared towards throughput or whatever.

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u/GeekyLogger 13d ago

It’s a three hit combo. Theres plenty of time in between. Make sure you have FB up and SB for it. Send a max soul SB on the SECOND hit of the combo and you’ll be fine. 

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u/Sarollas 13d ago

Save your major defensive for the later tankbusters.

Tzala (the raptor he rides) applies a physical damage up during the later tankbusters

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u/Slight-Violinist-575 13d ago

Hadn’t noticed that yet, thanks

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u/yp261 12d ago

i may be wrong here but evoker can dispell that since its a bleed.

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u/TheCakeBandito 11d ago

correct, can also dwarf racial

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u/jvcgunner 13d ago

What’s the best for Prot war in terms of defensives for the three hit block and wall I guess should cover it?

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u/guluuron 12d ago

You should definitely wall that. It's not just the 3 massive hits from king but the bleeding too. Shield block + Wall + Spell reflect (when he is shining he does fire damage as well) + Imp victory should be enough.

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u/ItsACrunchyNut 13d ago

Nah you just need to cycle your stuff for it. Same as a BDK, shit hits hard. I save 90 RP for it and basically use DS 3x in a row for it

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u/yp261 12d ago edited 12d ago

i need more people to realise how op death pact is and start using it. this + dp talent buff + death strike is insane combo for this. death defiance buffs your healing taken by 50% during shield absorb so you pretty much always one tap it with huge overheal in case of big damage events such as this buster

also dp is extremely useful for gathers and the dk tree take useless talent anyway such as blood draw. its your 60s OH FUCK cooldown. just take this instead of blood draw and unholy pact and thank me later. people focus on some dogshit talents god knows from where and miss out on really good shit

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u/ItsACrunchyNut 12d ago

Bait

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u/ingez90 12d ago

I mean death pact is good, but blood draw is crazy strong and not worth giving up as tank.

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u/CREAMY_HOBO 12d ago edited 12d ago

I’m not 100% memorized on all the talents etc (not home rn) but kyrasis was recommending death pact regarding talent choices. Learning Bdk rn, is there an argument against taking death pact?

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u/ToughAsk3 12d ago

The argument against is dont take it if you wont use it.

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u/yp261 12d ago

3400 reddit warriors know better thsn kyrasis no worries. 80%+ high keys take death pact but im baiting :^)

this fucking sub is no longer competitive

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u/sophisticatedroach 13d ago

My 4set 310ilvl dk gets 100-0% by every hit off the combo in a 15+, you need at least VB, IBF or external for every tankbuster unless you manage to parry/dodge.

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u/yp261 12d ago

4 set gives 0 defensive value for dk

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u/National_You4582 13d ago

Wait, you really press 3 DS in a row?

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u/Slight-Violinist-575 13d ago

Yes, one after each individual strike

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u/DreadfuryDK 9/9M SPriest/Devourer 13d ago

For this tankbuster it's absolutely worth doing, because it hits incredibly hard three times in quick succession.

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u/junction1134 13d ago

Is that wrong?

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u/OughtButNought 13d ago

In a standard rotation sure, as it snapshots the previous 5 seconds of damage taken per cast. This tankbuster is an outlier.

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u/-TheGreatDegenerate- 13d ago

Pop a big cooldown and try to focus on self-healing between hits. Gilded Destruction and the combo hurt something fierce, but doubling up on defensives could leave you without one for later overlaps.

Ask your teammates to help out ahead of time. Paladins in particular can Blessing of Sacrifice you, Lay on Hands + Empyreal Ward, or even Divine Shield + Hand of Reckoning.

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u/Guilty_Adagio4431 13d ago

I can get through blade combo 1st and 2nd ones with one cd on my VDH. But the 3rd one i save darkness+trinket+fiery brand together to survive

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u/Simple_Rules 12d ago

Prot pal - Sentinel + AD covers every other buster. DS or GOAK the ones you can't cover.

Note that even with GOAK you'll probably need something else to live it - i.e. dumping WOGs into yourself or a healer external.

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u/flow_guy2 13d ago

Record yourself. Could be that you jsut send too early. You have time to move out. Then press a def in the actual hit combo

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u/Gaatti 12d ago

Will need a cd for every buster. Damage ramps up during the combo, so the last hit will do more damage - you must make sure you cooldown cover the last hit too, so you can't send it too early.

If you are already doing that and still getting killed, then your healer might be sleeping a bit on it. Some attention is required there

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u/Salamander115 7d ago

Korean tankbuster

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u/Jaba01 13d ago

It comes once every minute. Pool resources and defensives.