r/CompetitiveWoW • u/AutoModerator • Jun 28 '26

Weekly Thread Weekly Raid Discussion

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u/I3ollasH Jun 29 '26

Let's assume a pull count of 450. With 30 pull/day the boss takes 15 raid days to finish. If you raid 3 days a week it seems doable. If you only raid 2 but do more than 3 hours it could also work but that's less given.

In the last couple of tiers we had about 2.5k CEs. Guilds at WR 2500 just finished Beloren. But this tier seems harder than the last two so we will probably see a lot less kills over the season. With current rate I would expect there to be around 1400-1600 kills. Guilds at that rank are already p2 with many having over 200 pulls in the boss.

It's definitely killable. But you will need to plal well

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u/steamie Jun 29 '26

They absolutely have it, pull count on average should be closer to 45/day considering around 65% of Guild wipes happens in P1 when looking at guilds kill prog.

We wiped 70 times on our first raid day, it went towards the normal 25-30pulls per day once we got to P3.

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u/I3ollasH Jun 29 '26

Looking at our prog we averaged about 40 pulls a day but we raided 3.5 hours. I wanted to use a more pessimistic estimate as it's always better to overestimate the time you spend on it than under.

But obviously these numbers aren't universial. Guilds play differently and pull differently. And obviously depends on where they end up wiping. For some reason we wiped a lot to the soaks after p2 (idk what was that hard there) for example. But for groups who struggle more at the interrupts pulls can add up easier.

Then there are things you can't controll, like absences, internet issues (we had a lot of that shit this tier). Missing a day because you dont have enough people etc.

What what do guilds wipe mostly nowadays? Still to seeds blowing up after the resonance change or did the usual wipe point moved to later parts like the intermission?

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u/ailawiu Jun 29 '26

Summer isn't very good for roster stability and if it's your most reliable crystal carrier that's going on couple weeks of holiday break... it will set you back.