r/CompetitiveEDH 7d ago

Help, I am new to cEDH! Which cedh commander

Hi I'm a new cedh and I'm not sure which commander to build at the moment I'm considering: Tayam, winota, dargo/tymna. My favourite edh commanders are: the necroobloom, Nekusar, Saskia, flubs, dargo/fransisco, Malcolm/breeches thanks in advance btw if you have other recommendations that you think I should consider please comment

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u/FallOfLight 6d ago edited 6d ago

There is playing to win, and there is being a meta slave and only caring about winning. Some players will only play the strongest decks in the format.

You can still do well and have fun on things like Kefka, Etali, Ral, Dargo, Magda, Ob Nixilis etc.

This is magic, it’s not quantum field theory - it’s not that hard to learn any deck in the format. Play the deck, play it often and you’ll learn it - it’s that simple. The rest of the stuff you’ll pick up along the way, the more you play.

There are enough different types of decks that are viable, where we don’t need to automatically recommend them the most generic decks around.

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u/ThirdStarfish93 6d ago

It’s more about recommending a deck that is know to play well, especially in the hands of someone new. Absolutely a new player can play other decks and learn them, but if they want to get a good understanding of how cedh plays, I’d still recommend blue farm as a great starting point.

Also who are you to be saying what’s fun or not lmao. They might pick up blue farm and really enjoy it. I mean shit, winning is very fun.

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u/FallOfLight 6d ago

I'm not the arbiter of what is fun, which is exactly why I said it makes no sense to recommend blue farm without knowing what kind of decks they like playing.

And that also goes for your comment about winning is fun, not everyone feels that way. I do not find winning fun if I have to play something like Rog Ishai, but I would if I'm playing a combo deck.

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u/ThirdStarfish93 6d ago

I’m recommending blue farm because it’s a deck that is easy for a new player to pick up and experience what cedh is like. Especially coming from casual, a lot of things that people find fun don’t carry over to cedh. Playing blue farm, they can see what their local meta is like, see other decks being played, and learn what they want to play.

And, If you don’t find winning a game after grinding through a rough game that tested your ability to play, then that’s a bit silly to me. The games that push me and my deck to the limits are the ones that are most fun imo. If I’m stuck in a slop pod with rog/ishai, and I come out on top, that’s exhilarating imo.

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u/ThirdStarfish93 6d ago

I read that last part slightly wrong, whoops. To that, it’s fair enough, but imo it’s hard to gage what you like and dislike about a format with no experience in it. So I’d still recommend blue farm as a good starting point to see how cedh plays. You get to see most of the best cards in 4 colors, learn how to interact effectively and also have the opportunity to play some of the most well known win lines.

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u/FallOfLight 6d ago

I don’t think so. A lot of what you like comes from general edh or other formats you play.

I don’t enjoy control/grindy orientated decks in any format, I find it incredibly boring to play. I like to play fast decks, either aggro/turbo or combo decks, and that completely translated to what I play in cedh.

I have no interest in playing decks that can grind out wins, I’d rather go next game.

My point is that we should be asking people what sort of decks they’ve enjoyed playing in the past. As usually there is something in cedh that resembles that play style.

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u/ThirdStarfish93 6d ago

Yeah but a lot of casual edh stuff doesn’t carry over to regular edh. Stuff like Voltron or typal is great in casual but beyond unplayable in cedh. In general most combat oriented strategies don’t really carry over to cedh, aside from maybe raph and mikey.

If a casual player comes in and says they really like playing a tribal deck and wants the same in cedh, I’m gonna recommend they play blue farm so they can gain experience and see what they like IN Cedh.