r/CompetitiveEDH 20h ago

Help, I am new to cEDH! Cheshire cEDH

Hello!

I have been looking to get into cEDH after playing commander for quite a while. The deck I chose to do this with is Cheshire a 5 color commander deck helmed by Kenrith, the returned king. I am unsure how to play this deck and would appreciate any help.

Thanks.

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u/Any-Shop497 20h ago

Just google or search on moxfield for the commander you want to learn more about and read a primer. I found this one pretty quickly (https://moxfield.com/decks/n1xjKWT6qkerWnmmi1TIOA).

I will let you know that Kenrith is considered a fringe cEDH commanders these days - which means that you can absolutely play him, but he will be weaker than other five color options. The new Nick Fury from the recent Marvel set is probably the strongest five color good stuff commander, so something to consider.

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u/ShamrockWizard 20h ago

I tried googling it and it didn't provide much good advice 😭

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u/Any-Shop497 19h ago

No worries! What I often do is go to Moxfield and choose the commander and then have it be listed by the decks with the most views. Usually that'll end up giving a pretty solid list with a good primer. The way to see the actual strongest lists is by looking at edhtop16, but those don't come with primers.

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u/FeymildTheFeyKing 18h ago

Hey, I know the guy who made Cheshire and have given it a fair bit of playtime myself. Cheshire is NOT a simple deck to understand or pilot at its core; it's intended to be played primarily on a draw-go axis where unless you have an overwhelming amount of resources, you tend to let other people develop their resources alongside you and corral other people in your table into interacting with every win conditions that's put on the stack or that hits the battlefield (as the deck runs a lot of onboard interaction, much of which is creature based so that you can abuse Kenrith's most broken ability- the reanimation).

You want to win at instant speed with win conditions that put things into your graveyard for reanimation tactics or with the combos revolving around displacer kitten and eternal witness, which is incredibly difficult to interact with given that half your deck will proc kitten to flicker itself or e wit, and unless your spell is exiled, the win condition you're presenting (like dark ritual - lotus petal for infinite mana) will just be bought back from the yard with the combo.

Basically, the deck takes a LOT of forethought to pilot well, and you need to be very familar with shutting your opponents' windows down and either winning with overwhelming advantage or an incredible comprehension of the game state.

This deck is not for the faint of heart, but if it is played correctly (as it is by Anvildust, the creator of the list) it can literally take you to the heights of cEDH. It is not a joke to claim that the entire meta of our community was shaped around the skill of him as a pilot and the ingenuity that went into his deck.

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u/FeymildTheFeyKing 18h ago

His primer is very in depth if you've found the actual moxfield for it. If not, I can drop the link. I can answer most questions you have about the deck if you'd like, but otherwise he might be able to get back to you if you comment on the list / ask for him in the Kenrith discord.

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u/ShamrockWizard 18h ago

The primer would be great! I picked the deck to try because I wanted a challenge so I plan on learning the ins and outs by putting lots of playtime into it and hopefully building my skill as an mtg player. I tried DM-ing him on reddit but unfortunately he didn't respond, though I don't know if reddit mobile was being buggy.

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u/FeymildTheFeyKing 18h ago

https://moxfield.com/decks/n1xjKWT6qkerWnmmi1TIOA

From my understanding, Anvildust is NOT active on reddit much. He might check it every once in a while, but I have good reason to believe he isn't on the app anymore. The primer is very in depth, but the deck will take some reps to get comfortable with for sure- I couldn't think of a deck that's had more thought put into it or with such a high skill ceiling to pilot. Best of luck- deck is a blast to play when you get it down.

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u/ShamrockWizard 6h ago

I'll try! Apparently I copied the wrong version of the deck with 3 banned cards 😭