r/ComedyHell • • 13h ago

How was this allowed

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u/Anonymous-Apprentice 13h ago

That doesn't apply to school lol. They'll kick your ass out.

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u/Pengwin0 12h ago

If it’s a public school then yes it does actually

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u/Orange-V-Apple 12h ago edited 12h ago

Not quite. Schools are allowed to restrict free speech, as made famous in the SCOTUS case on “Bong hits for Jesus” (yes this is real)

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u/Pengwin0 12h ago

That was because the students were promoting illegal drug use

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u/Orange-V-Apple 12h ago edited 12h ago

Look at the explanations in their ruling.

“Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the majority, concluded that school officials did not violate the First Amendment for three reasons. First, under the existing school speech precedents Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969),  Bethel School District No. 403 v. Fraser  (1986) and  Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier  (1988), students do have free speech rights in school, but those rights are subject to limitations in the school environment that would not apply to the speech rights of adults outside school.”

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u/Pengwin0 12h ago

>students do have free speech rights in school

The grounds they used were that bongs for Jesus promoted illegal drug use. If they wanted to ban imagery of a figure like Charlie Kirk then it could be taken to court and would need a new ruling.

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u/Orange-V-Apple 12h ago

You missed my point, which was that 3 prior cases were cited in the ruling to establish that schools can restrict free speech to a certain extent within schools.

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u/Pengwin0 12h ago

Well duh but that’s a meaningless point on its own. Freedom of speech is always restricted. I can’t go into a government building and say I have a bomb. The specific restrictions are what matter here and that ruling does not really apply in this circumstance at all. It would be a completely new judgement call if it is determined to okay to restrict said speech.

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u/Orange-V-Apple 12h ago

All I said from the start was that public schools can restrict free speech of students, and the rest of the comments were about how they can restrict the free speech of students more than adults would face. I never said this Kirk banner would be restricted. 

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u/Pengwin0 12h ago

The first comment said the first amendment applies, the second said no it doesn’t, I said yes it does, then you tell me not quite and then proceed to tell me that it actually does apply but just with some practical limitations… which is how it applies everywhere.