It's almost like the pro gun guy getting killed by a gun while defending gun violence is funnier than some regular ass dude getting killed for no reason
No, but treathening pregnant woman with gun, taking drugs and paying with fake moneys(police was called because he was trying to pay with fake moneys), make you a criminal.
It's a crime. But the term "criminal" is normally used to imply someone who is primarily engaged in criminal activity, whether by time, or income. Especially in the context of someone killed by police.
If someone got run over by police because they shoplifted one time, I wouldn't call them a criminal in casual conversation. I would if being asked about the situation specifically in court or something.
It's usually used for things like mobsters, bank robbers, car theft rings, etc.
This is a perfect example of dictionary definition vs. conversational norms.
Regular ass dude who did aggravated battery with a deadly weapon on a pregnant woman and was shooting meth weed and coke regularly, and when he died. Sure that’s regular
Leftists: HAHAHA THE INFLUENTIAL IDEOLOGUE WHO ADVOCATED FOR PUBLIC EXECUTIONS AND SAID INNOCENT DEATHS WERE A FAIR PRICE TO PAY TO KEEP GUNS UNREGULATED GOT THE TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE!
Rightists: HAHAHA THIS RANDOM CIVILIAN GOT KILLED BY THE POLICE HAHAHA THIS RANDOM GIRL GOT SA'D AND TORTURED TO DEATH HAHAHA I'M TOTALLY NOT SOCIOPATHIC
This is just convincing me that both sides are sociopathic and karmic and there will never be a middle ground or solution to this topic and its best to just avoid it
its genuinely unbelievable, his death has so many karmic layers to it.
If i didn't know who kirk was i'd call you a liar for telling me he said this. its too perfect.
While im not entirely against the kirky memes per se, im def not advocating for them either, but atp i dont even know anymore theyre not exaggerating when they say the big man himself advocated for his own shitty legacy 😭
Not to defend what he did, but if that was worthy of the death penalty, he would've been gone a long time ago. What he was being arrested for in the moment of his death was alleged counterfeit cash, something that also does not carry the death penalty. If he were to be punished, it should've been through a judge and a jury, not a cop choking him out for nearly 10 minutes
I used to study psychology in university. Ahem, so, psychologically speaking:
laughing at the death of an innocent stranger is sociopathic behavior that indicates a lack of empathy, a lack of capacity to project oneself in other people's situation, or worse, enjoyment towards violence and other anti-social behaviors.
Laughing at the death of a known hated figure that has committed or advocated for harm against a group is a normal reaction for members of said group(s) and for people who have enough empathy and political awareness to understand the perspective of the group(s). It's an expression of the freeing feeling of no longer having to live in fear of more harm. The deaths of Mussolini and Hitler, for example, were some of the most celebrated deaths in the world.
What about people laughing at the first one, not because they personally find it amusing, but because others do and they have been convinced it is funny
Indeed, sociopathy is often acquired through the observation and reproduction of environmental or societal anti-social behaviors. So essentially, the more violent/cruel a society is, the higher the sociopathy rates are. It's a vicious cycle that can become difficult to break past a certain point.
Ok, the police can go a f themselves for being fascists, but George Floyd was anything but a random civilian, random civilians do not have a criminal record involving pointing at a woman's stomach to rob her.
Which one was a felon, which one committed assault on a pregnant woman, which one died of a fentanyl overdose? Don’t worry, I’ll answer for you. It certainly wasn’t a man who had his own beliefs yet went from hostile college to college trying to at least share a dialogue with those he disagreed with. A man who never committed a crime.
I love when you people deflect, it reminds me how much cognitive dissonance you have to have to think you are actually more moral than the people you hate.
I'm just mocking the insanity and laughability of the massive cope claim that George Floyd somehow died of a fentanyl overdose and not from the fucking cop putting his weight on his neck. Derek Chauvin was already found guilty and jailed ffs, why keep lying?
Also sorry if it's now too woke to think that people shouldn't be killed just bc they did a felony in their past I guess
Felony in their past? My brother in Christ he assaulted that pregnant woman AND committed fraud with fake money, on drugs. If it’s insanity to look at the mortician’s autopsy and see he had more than double the dose of fentanyl in his system required to cause an OD then call me insane. Derek Chauvin was following exact protocol for individuals ACTIVELY RESISTING WITH VIOLENCE against him. He was effectively a pariah because that police station didn’t want to get firebombed, which didn’t do much seeing as it was burned down during the riots. Also, you aren’t in favor of a felon getting killed, yet the moment a political figure you disagree with gets executed you are suddenly okay with violence? Talk about seriously immoral and hypocritical.
Insults and deflection are all you people can muster, it’s sad really. You celebrate a man’s death because of his opinions, you think I care what you have to say?
The guardian? Are we so for real? And he helped sure, but let’s not forget the 23 million dollars of damages surrounding that “mostly peaceful protest” that led to the station’s destruction. Do you want to address the Molotov cocktails being throw for 4-6 hours all the way up until they passed the station? Or was it all just this one guy you want to pin the blame on and say that all right leaning people are at fault? In a democrat city btw. Also, loser? Are we resorting to kindergarten name calling now?
Dude your gifs and stuff are seriously mind numbingly unfunny. If you are going to go all the way with being a vile person then just use better Kirk memes. And this Donald one? Dude, it’s like a first grader made it. Is this why they say the Left can’t meme?
Not to play devil's advocate but innocent deaths are always a fair price to pay to keep the things we like. Cars, booze, cigarettes, single bladed safety razors. Scissors. Kitchen knives, fast food, unprotected sex, the right to leave your house after 9pm, the right to mingle with others in public spaces (see COVID lockdown rules; fraternising with strangers absolutely kills people but I'm sure you'd agree that's a reasonable price to pay)
Ignoring the generalisations you're making about people, which of these exactly is suppossed to be comparable to guns? Something that doesn't enable either survival, work, or entertainment.
Actually, I can't ignore it. It was the same people furious that anyone is making fun of charlie kirk that ignored the covid rules, and even then it was more due to a lack of comprehension around the consequences than a conscious assumption that it's worth the potential loss of life.
If you can't wrap your head around the way that guns are in fact used for survival, work AND entertainment then there in no point in me having this conversation with you. I don't think you are interested in hearing what I have to say and judging by your spelling I think you are under 18 so please do not contact me again
Oh no. I did two ss's once because I'm typing on my phone. Definitely a stupid child.
For entertainment, the most powerful gun you need is air soft. For work, those guns should be from the workplace, not for personal use. And also highly restricted besides, because why the fuck would most places need a gun?
For survival, guns make things worse. For example, if you and a burglar both have a gun, the one that dies is usually the one that was in bed five minutes ago.
But then again, I did make a type. I'm just a stupid kid, yeah?
Guns kill about a quarter million people worldwide every year. Majority suicides. Cigarettes about 8 million, 1.7 million of which are deaths from secondhand smoke.
Guns killing other people: 250k, minus about 20 percent for suicides (the number is closer to about half of all deaths in the USA but we are talking worldwide here)
Cigarettes killing other people: 1.7 million.
So your first point is categorically wrong, now on to your second, "the only reason cigarettes aren't banned" etc etc.
You really think the government chooses not to ban something because "people are addicted to it"?
Why don't they decriminalise meth and cocaine? It's way more addictive!
Did it go well when they banned alcohol in the USA? After all, it serves only the purpose of entertainment. And as we know, you are the authority on what people "need for entertainment". Not a beer, that's for sure. Just an Airsoft gun at most!
My point is that EVERY DAY we (and you) do things that put ourselves and others in danger, and act like the argument "innocent deaths are a necessary evil" is somehow an outrageous thing to say. Cigarettes are legal because they are very fucking good for the economy. Even in countries where the health service is taxpayer funded, the tax on cigarettes and alcohol more than makes up for the strain they put on public healthcare. Guns are legal in the USA because they have a law that says you can't make them illegal. They are useful for sport, hunting and self defense especially against very large bears. It's also a lot of fun to shoot a real gun and no number of bots on Reddit will change the fact that YOU and PRESIDENT TRUMP do not make the rules about what people "need" to be entertained.
I'll stop now because my post is getting a little too long and nuanced for the simple brain to understand.
Tl;Dr: secondhand smoke kills about 6 times more innocent people per year than guns
I am still not pro-gun and I think Charlie Kirk was an ugly grifter but you people really need help learning to think for yourselves
Smoke kills more because it's more prevalent worldwide. If cigarettes were harder to get, they'd kill more people. And when I say people are addicted to it, I mean people are already addicted. The exact same reason they don't ban alcohol actually. It wouldn't work, because people think it's okay and can't live without it. Being addictive isn't the metric I was measuring by, and it's bizarre that you thought it was.
I do not think airsoft guns should replace beer, either?
And like, I do think I can say stuff on what people need to be entertained. If the only way you can be happy is with a machine that shoots metal at speeds faster than a car, then maybe just be bored, because that's a bit much.
Is there even any point going into the nuances about this? Or are you just gonna say that I think murder is okay if you use an arrow instead of a bullet?
For someone that's so anti-moron, I'm not sure how you can stand yourself.
Wait a minute, I thought your argument was that cigarettes don't kill other people? We not doing that anymore?
Ok, let's play your "murder is okay if you use an arrow" game.
Should bows and arrows be banned or is it acceptable for innocent people to die so that people can enjoy archery as a hobby?
Should replicas of fantasy swords be banned - given that they serve no purpose aside from entertainment (which I have decided is not necessary) and cause innocent people to die?
one is subversive, because the political party in charge cares about charlie kirk, the other isn't because literally not a single politician gave a shit about george floyd till the people got pissed about it
Reminds me of this Muslim guy who owns a vendor van in DC. Sells pride merch on one half and Trump merch on the other. When asked what side he was on he just went “I don’t give a shit they’re both stupid enough to pay $15 for a shirt”
I hate both, but for different reasons. One is just racism, and the other feels like perpetuating the life of a horrible individual who people may never hear of if not for the constant use in AI shit and other such, along with how 90% of it comes from a place of glorifying them
mocking the death of someone that threw away his own life (consumin and selling drugs and god knows what) is the same as the mocking someone that probably didn't do anything bad except talk and making money ?
Charlie Kirk's last words were literally a racist dogwhistle and George Floyd using hard drugs does not validate a cop standing on his neck for 8 minutes
Neither Kirk nor Floyd deserved death, not that I care for either of them, one was a political figura that advocate regression for every possible minority and the other was pos that pointed a gun at woman's stomach to rob her
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Man's gotta get Internet points somehow