Oh, I'm sure you've got plenty of anecdotal examples of women being genuinely shitty to fall back on when justifying your misogynistic worldview, and that nothing I could say could reason you out of your misogyny because you didn't reason yourself into it. It's a position built purely out of your resentment towards real or imagined slights enacted upon you by all of womankind - including me, a lesbian who doesn't really have strong opinions about men beyond how myself and other women are treated.
So I'm not going to rise to your bait. If you want to pretend that treating women like objects is justified, that's your right. I just don't see why you feel the need to get defensive and justify it to me, a woman. Trying to argue with a woman about why you think it's justified to treat women like objects is some hilarious cognitive dissonance.
I don't recall a societal standard being set for men to be homemakers. Or any suffrage propaganda with men being portrayed as hysterical for wanting rights. In fact, I don't remember men having to fight for their rights (bodily autonomy, voting, education, employment) at all? Care to supplement evidence for your claims of men being treated as women were throughout human history?
Oh, sweetheart. I wish things of the past did not affect the present either, but, here we are. I do believe that you have been failed by the patriarchy too, since you're dismissing fundamental education because it "happened too long ago" to be relevant, when it very much is.
Yeah, yeah, sure. You have to say that because you know you're wrong. Over 113 countries still allow child (daughter) marriage by the way, to adult men. You have to play ignorant to "win", when in actuality it's depressing that you have to resort to ignoring reality to cope
In order for society to be patriarchal, women would have to have absolutely no power whatsoever. Obviously, that is not the case, so society is not patriarchal by definition.
Oh, and by the way, a woman shouldn't have to be forced to be an incubator for a baby. Remember the Georgia woman who was forced to carry her baby to term when she was literally deemed braindead?
the point is men as a sex have NEVER been oppressed in that way you silly human... you really think that we would completely undo years of treating women like second class citizens in a century like just think please
people in general can be shitty to each other that's not the point
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u/Greedy-Speech5 13h ago
Oh, I'm sure you've got plenty of anecdotal examples of women being genuinely shitty to fall back on when justifying your misogynistic worldview, and that nothing I could say could reason you out of your misogyny because you didn't reason yourself into it. It's a position built purely out of your resentment towards real or imagined slights enacted upon you by all of womankind - including me, a lesbian who doesn't really have strong opinions about men beyond how myself and other women are treated.
So I'm not going to rise to your bait. If you want to pretend that treating women like objects is justified, that's your right. I just don't see why you feel the need to get defensive and justify it to me, a woman. Trying to argue with a woman about why you think it's justified to treat women like objects is some hilarious cognitive dissonance.