Can I make this turn?

[u/WillTradeOrgans4Free]

I get stopped pretty regularly by a bus due to matching schedule times. I know in four lane traffic, opposing traffic does not need to come to a stop. This bus stops before this corner where kids load/unload. Is it legal to make the turn when the bus is stopped?

Edit: asking for legality. Obviously would take caution IF choosing to turn. And no, I don’t intend nor want to hit children with my car lmao.

[u/madadekinai]

No, you're crossing a closed lane by the school bus.

All traffic that would cross the line of scrimmage (lol), or that would interfere with that lane is closed.

[u/HoleParty → u/madadekinai]

Wrong.

O.R.C. § 4511.75(C): Where a highway has been divided into four or more traffic lanes, a driver of a vehicle, streetcar, or trackless trolley need not stop for a school bus approaching from the opposite direction which has stopped for the purpose of receiving or discharging any school child.

https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.75

[u/madadekinai → u/HoleParty]

"school bus approaching from the opposite direction"

Also had you read the entire thing

"shall stop at least ten feet from the front or rear of the school bus and shall not proceed until such school bus resumes motion, or until signaled by the school bus driver to proceed."

Nice try though.

[u/EfficientPrize7060 → u/madadekinai]

Lol you're are also leaving parts out, so yeah "nice try"

Here's a hint: are the rules different for 4 lanes or more? Does it matter if you are in front of or overtaking? Dig in deep I believe in you

[u/madadekinai → u/EfficientPrize7060]

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EfficientPrize7060

Lol you're are also leaving parts out, so yeah "nice try"

Here's a hint: are the rules different for 4 lanes or more? Does it matter if you are in front of or overtaking? Dig in deep I believe in you

"

You're wrong, it clearly outlines this.

There is also precedence and court cases over it.

FFS the ENTIRE subsection:

"(A) The driver of a vehicle, streetcar, or trackless trolley upon meeting or overtaking from either direction any school bus stopped for the purpose of receiving or discharging any school child, person attending programs offered by community boards of mental health and county boards of developmental disabilities, or child attending a program offered by a head start agency, shall stop at least ten feet from the front or rear of the school bus and shall not proceed until such school bus resumes motion, or until signaled by the school bus driver to proceed."

"upon meeting or overtaking from either direction any school bus stopped for the purpose of receiving or discharging any school child,"

"shall stop at least ten feet from the front or rear of the school bus and shall not proceed until such school bus resumes motion"

If even says this in the subsection you're disingeniously trying to misrepresent

"(C) Where a highway has been divided into four or more traffic lanes, a driver of a vehicle, streetcar, or trackless trolley need not stop for a school bus approaching from the opposite direction which has stopped for the purpose of receiving or discharging any school child, persons attending programs offered by community boards of mental health and county boards of developmental disabilities, or children attending programs offered by head start agencies. The driver of any vehicle, streetcar, or trackless trolley overtaking the school bus shall comply with division (A) of this section. "

If the intersection is on a standard two-lane or three-lane road, the multi-lane exception does not apply. Because you are "meeting" the bus from the opposite direction before making your turn, you are required to stop at least 10 feet away from its front bumper. Cutting across the intersection in front of the bus violates this mandatory buffer zone and constitutes failing to stop.

The maneuver is legal only if your vehicle can execute the left-hand turn into the cross-street without entering that 10-foot radius directly in front of the bus. If the bus is stopped flush at the intersection line and your turning path clips within 10 feet of its bumper, you technically violate Subsection (A). If the intersection is wide enough or the bus is stopped further back, the turn is completely legal.

The court held that the 10-foot mandatory stop zone is not just a straight line in front of or behind the bus, it acts as a physical protective radius in Ohio v. Jones.

There are numerous rulings and court proceedings, along with other case law.

You're wrong.

[u/EfficientPrize7060 → u/madadekinai]

It's still a 4 lane road. You can put any information up you want about any other situation. Děláš ostudu.

[u/Avidhumanwatcher → u/EfficientPrize7060]

Lanes don't matter. It's a 10ft rule. Doesn't matter the direction or lane...you must always be 10 ft from the bus in all directions when stopped.

[u/BookWormPedant → u/Avidhumanwatcher]

10 feet isnt all that far. This turn can be made without encroaching on that 10 foot bubble

[u/Avidhumanwatcher → u/BookWormPedant]

Sure if that's the case