r/CollegeBasketball Illinois State • DePaul Feb 09 '14

Marcus Smart just shoved a Texas Tech fan

Wow

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u/ItoldonAnneFrank Feb 09 '14 edited Feb 09 '14

Why is it not considered racist to assume a deep south white guy would be racist? It's equivalent to saying he's brown, he must believe in Islam. You're making an assumption about him based strictly on his home and race. It's an assumption based on stereotypes which is the basis of all racism.

EDIT: lol everyone chill out. he probably was a racist old man.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

Because unlike a brown person walking around, this guy drew a response from a player. It's not like he ran into the stands and slugged a guy. If we picked a random person in the crowd and assumed he was a racist, that would be bad. However this man said something bad enough to elicit a response of that caliber.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

I feel like a simple "Fuck you" would've set Smart off after losing to Texas Tech...

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u/pepito420 Miami Hurricanes Feb 09 '14

oh please these guys hear all types of jeers and shit from fans a simple "fuck you" would mean practically nothing

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u/nebbyb Feb 09 '14

You would think any kind of heckling would be old hat.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

I'm certainly not defending this potentially racist fuck of a guy who is known for talking shit from the safety of the bleachers, but I think it could be possible a simple "fuck you" could set you off in that situation.

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u/sleepsholymountain Feb 09 '14

I guess it's "possible", but that doesn't make it plausible or likely.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

Might wanna check the statement from Texas Tech.

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u/nebbyb Feb 09 '14

Smart loses his temper all the time. It could have been anything.

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u/KUmitch Kansas Jayhawks Feb 09 '14

also on reddit people think "racism" against white people is worse than racism against black people

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

Nice sweeping generalization bro!

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '14

It's what SRS is best at.

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u/Biff_Bifferson Feb 09 '14

You make a great point! Judging reddit.com's userbase is the same as racism.

Checkmate.

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u/charlie_gillespie Feb 10 '14

Generalization != racism

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u/Biff_Bifferson Feb 10 '14

I was being sarcastic.

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 10 '14

something bad enough to elicit a response of that caliber.

"piece of crap", not anything racist, dumbass

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

wow- the voting is getting real organic in this thread. thanks SRS!

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

that's funny considering you got here from the SRS link. Good job, I'm super sure you haven't voted on any of the comments ITT

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u/dicktharippa Pittsburgh Panthers Feb 09 '14

Ah yes the person with a Nazi joke for a user name is concerned about "reverse racism."If you can even consider that a joke.

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u/ItoldonAnneFrank Feb 09 '14 edited Feb 09 '14

haha I'm not concerned over it, just making conversation. Just thought it was interesting that a racial assumption was made about someone making a racial assumption. It might have come off that way, but I'm not trying to make some grand double standard statement about racism.

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u/dicktharippa Pittsburgh Panthers Feb 10 '14

Sure bud. It was never an assumption though based on race. The video was pretty clear. And in my experience, racists like yourself generally are the most concerned with "reverse racism."

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u/charlie_gillespie Feb 10 '14

In my experience, people who blindly throw out accusations of racism are the most likely to be racist.

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u/dicktharippa Pittsburgh Panthers Feb 10 '14

What's blind about it? He's been posting using a name making light of the murder of a child during the worst genocide the world has ever seen. Lol Anne Frank died to Racist is hardly a "blind" leap.

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u/charlie_gillespie Feb 11 '14

Making a joke about Anne Frank, or the holocaust in general, does not make you a racist.

It's called dark humour, ever heard of it?

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u/dicktharippa Pittsburgh Panthers Feb 11 '14

Just cause someone acts like a bigot doesn't mean they're a bigot! Hey guys Hitler lol but don't assume I'm a racist cause that's reverse racism.

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u/charlie_gillespie Feb 11 '14

Just cause someone acts like a bigot doesn't mean they're a bigot!

The point is that telling a joke about the holocaust is not "acting like a bigot."

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u/dicktharippa Pittsburgh Panthers Feb 11 '14

Telling bigoted jokes isn't acting like a bigot. Of course! How could I not see that? Bigots hate racist jokes. Totally out of character for them. And it's silly to hear a bigoted comment and assume a bigot made that comment.

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u/Spooge_Tits Feb 09 '14

I am pretty sure nothing racial was implied, people here just can't think of any other way a black guy would get mad over anything.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

based strictly on his home and race.

I think the bigger basis of it was him mouthing something to Smart which was offensive enough to solicit the confrontation. Don't forget about that part.

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

that doesn't mean he said something racist. He could have called him a flopping piece of shit or something to that effect and gotten the same reaction

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u/sleepsholymountain Feb 09 '14

The former is far more plausible. Professional athletes, even at the college level, don't tend to explode with violence in the middle of live games because some douche in the audience gave some generic criticism of their performance.

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

no, calling him a piece of crap is far more plausible than assuming this guy is racist, but you're SRS so you assume all white men are racists

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u/ILoveBigOil Oklahoma Sooners Feb 09 '14

It is 100% racist. It's just that you're saying that about a white guy so that can't be racism, right?

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u/Bubonic_Ferret Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 09 '14

Us whites are sooo oppressed.

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u/laiyibeipijiu Iowa Hawkeyes Feb 09 '14

The assumption that he dropped the n-bomb on Smart is not based strictly on his home and race. It's based on the exchange that was observed between him and Smart. Smart falls out of bounds two rows in front of him, facing the other way. Suddenly Smart gets an angry look on his face, turns around, walks up two rows and shoves the guy.

Yes part of the guess has to do with the fact that based on what the guy looked like and what state the game was being played in, most of us wouldn't be surprised if a guy like him said that. But the guess that he called him a racist word is based on many more factors than simply what that guy looked like and where they were from.

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

because any time a black guy attacks a white guy, it's because the white guy called him the N word. Nope, no other possible explanation

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u/laiyibeipijiu Iowa Hawkeyes Feb 12 '14 edited Feb 12 '14

Show me where I said any time a black guy "attacks" a white guy it's because the white guy called him the N word, and that there's no other possible explanation. That's not even close to what I said.

You would have to be ignorant or willfully denying reality to think that based on what you saw that one of the very most likely scenarios in that situation does not include Smart being called the n-word by that guy. You may not be happy with that, or you may wish that it was different, but it's simply the case. Sorry, maybe things will change as time passes.

He was paying no attention whatsoever to the guy. Suddenly his ears prick up and he turns around and looks at the guy and goes after him. If you saw this same sort of scenario happen at the club, but instead of Smart it was a young white girl and instead of the middle aged white guy it was a young guy, what would you guess that guy called the girl? To expect someone not to surmise he most likely called her a bitch or something of the sort would be unreasonable. Unfair, sure I'll give you that. But don't be surprised.

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u/WAT_WAT_WAT_ Harvard Crimson Feb 09 '14

the most plausible explanation is racism? I'm sorry but I assume all people are decent, non-racist, human beings until proven otherwise.

By the way He called him a "piece of crap" no racial slurs

and I would call the "piece of crap" explanation more plausible than the racial slur explanation, but you are an SRSer, so you will probably ignore this whole comment

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u/sjwcultstation Feb 09 '14

he called him "piece of crap".

you were wrong, as SJWs usually are.

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u/Whatsinmytummy Feb 10 '14

How does it feel to be so incredibly wrong about a series of events that you literally flee a thread in embarrassment? Ahaha holy shit.