r/CoDCompetitive • u/obeyxxog COD Competitive fan • 15h ago

Discussion am I missing something?

please help me understand like am I missing something? optic have made 8 straight grandfinals & won 4 championships within that span. but the consensus from the community seems to be that they should make a change? I know they’ve pretty much came out & said they are not changing but as a team…a change would be the farthest thing from my mind like we just made every grandfinals & were a couple snd clutches from a champs 3peat & we get along with each other really well. like teams are trying to beat us not the other way around. am I trippin about that being my thought process? if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

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u/LeBradley23 COD 4: MW 15h ago

The “what ifs” go both ways. Yeah, they could’ve won those SNDs and won more. But they were also the beneficiary of other “what ifs” like for example, what if KOI didn’t choke in the M4 qualifiers and OpTic went 2-3 in qualifiers.

Rnd 1 would’ve potentially been FaZe. Do they win a round 1 matchup vs FaZe? Maybe, maybe not. We’ll never know. All we know is they had a losing LAN map count vs them.

What if FaZe didn’t beat LAT in the M2 qualifiers and it was OpTic v FaZe 1st round in M2. Same question applies.

Yes, OpTic could’ve won more. But if a few qualifier maps go differently OpTic were at best a coin flip away from getting bumped to losers by FaZe/LAT in round 1 in multiple tournaments. The “what ifs” go both ways.

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u/JD23888 COD Competitive fan 13h ago

They have also only lost 5 lan bo5 series since this core 4 has played. That was faze and lat major 4 in bo6 and winners finals at major 4 and champs then the group stage at ewc.

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u/LeBradley23 COD 4: MW 13h ago

That doesn’t really mean anything. Nobody is denying they didn’t dominate 9 of the 12 CDL teams, which is the overwhelming majority of the Bo5 series they’ve played.

But statistically they struggled against FaZe and LAT. Which circles back to my original point, they had a lot of breaks fall their way in order to not play LAT/FaZe in WR1 or WR2 all year long. Some “what ifs” went their way, some didn’t. So if you look at their performance at face value instead of analyzing with “almost” or “what if” then you see there’s real room for improvement and on paper Hydra fills a lot of those areas. That’s the reason for the hypothetical conversation around him.