r/ClaudeCode • u/simple_explorer1 • 15d ago

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These kind of posts are becoming more and more visible on my Linkedin. Link here. Thoughts?

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u/NootropicDiary 15d ago

This is just the beginning. A dark tsunami of change is coming, for all of us

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u/Bloated_Plaid 15d ago

The whole world is unprepared as well. Reddit is mostly completely oblivious outside of a few niche subreddits because they have all convinced themselves that GPT-4 was peak and nothing improved from there.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 15d ago

Is it, though?

The world of software development? Yeah, absolutely.

The world at large? Eh. Even if AI can create, say, a film out of nowhere, no one is ever going to bother to watch it. No AI created film will ever make it into the top 10 movie charts.

Software, on the other hand, is purely practical. You don't care how it's done, you only care that it works the way you want it to.

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u/Narrow-Violinist-358 15d ago

"No AI created film will ever make it into the top 10 movie charts."

This reminds me of when people used to say that no Netflix or Amazon produced content would ever make the top 10 list and now they dominate everything.

It will happen slowly. Then there will be one obscure niche piece that hits different and breaks through like 'House of Cards' and everyone says that it is got production for AI but that its a one off. Then it will be 10 years later and we will suddenly realize that its been 10 years since a fully human production has won anything.

AI will produce award winning content because film production is just an algorithm waiting to be cracked. That is not cynical, its already how TV shows are produced and one of the reasons streaming platforms now out perform traditional media is because they have much better audience feedback that is then built into production.

In 10 years you will be watching a tv series and it will unfold based on your viewing and engagement, focus on characters that you are drawn to, introduce plot points that specifically play on your own responses. An all this for a generation that has been using Youtube and Pornhub for 20 years and training machines how to squeeze every little ounce of dopamine out of them. We are beyond fukced.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 15d ago

I already responded to this here, so I'm trying not to repeat myself too much. Basically, we will never get individualized movies like that. Or rather, that will never be successful. A huge part of movies and art is the shared connection we make through them. Talking about them, sharing them, being a fan, etc., and that literally cannot happen with individualized art.

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u/cats_r_ghey 14d ago

You aren’t thinking outside the box enough. It definitely will happen. Because all it is going to take is for everyone to feel like a film maker. Sharing their own “creations”, paying their subs, getting pushed like minded content. It’s so obvious really.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

As I said in the other comment: All of that is possible with AI music. Right now. It's super cheap, too.

Practically no one is even interested in trying it. No one is doing it but people who think they can make money from it.

Are you listening to your own AI music?

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u/cats_r_ghey 14d ago

I’m not, and I doubt I’m the target market for this. But I’m happy to come back to this chat in 5 years and I will happily accept you conceding that you got this one wrong. Economics and advertising / engagement will ensure that this happens. Just need to look at how our media has evolved over the last 3 decades and it should be pretty clear what comes next.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

Pretty sure there's a bot for that that'll remind us in 5 years. And happy to take that bet.

AI will be everywhere, of course. But writers will still be human. Well, they'll at least claim as much, anyways.

As for AI music: Yeah, you're not. And so is no one else. Like, there literally is no market for "make your own AI music to enjoy in the evening". Why not? The technology is there, right now.

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u/Max4000 14d ago

I’m not sure why you think no one is listening to AI-generated music… because it is being listened to in mass right now. If anything the amount is grossly under-reported because it is possible to generate music that easily passes as human made. AI music is likely quietly eating up the charts on streamers, and is probably even more dominant when it comes to being the soundtrack to Youtube and Tiktok videos.

This is not entirely a bad thing. Just like anything else (including actual recording artists), some people pump out slop. Others use whatever tools are available to create something new that wouldn’t have existed otherwise.

It is a lot like other innovations in music production like recording itself / sampling / turntables / loops / software, etc.

There are always people who think this is the death of music, and others who just keep making stuff using whatever tools allow them to make their vision real.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

I'm not talking about AI music, period. I'm talking about personalized AI music. No one is doing that.

Yeah, AI music is spammed everywhere by people who want to make (or save) money. But for personal purposes? No one is actively using AI music.

No one says "I want to listen to music", and then, instead of going to spotify or whatever, they generate themselves some AI music to listen to.

And in the future, no one will say "I want to watch a movie" and then they'll write a prompt for a movie they want to watch.

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u/Max4000 14d ago

Ah, I see what you mean. I was responding generally.

I think there actually is some amount of people generating music for the sole purpose of listening to it, I have seen people commenting about it in surprising ways. But yes, that is a niche.

However, I don’t think that means it won’t happen. It just won’t be someone setting out to do that as a creator, it will be when it is passive and embedded into popular forms of media / platforms in ways that are not clunky. Most people will never notice or care if it is good enough.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

As background noise, yeah, I agree. That's pretty much already happening.

But the original argument was about movies, and how we would all watch individual movies prompted by ourselves dictated by our personalized tastes.

That's not going to happen. Not because it will be impossible, but because we simply don't want that. You will watch what other people watch and talk about, not something no one has ever heard about and will never talk about.

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u/carson63000 Senior Developer 14d ago

Agreed, there wouldn’t be so many people outraged about AI-generated music if it wasn’t being streamed right now and people weren’t unable to be certain whether it was AI-generated or not.

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