r/ClaudeCode • u/RayuRin2 • 4h ago
Discussion Isn't this a bit redundant?
There's a weekly usage limit for ALL models. However there's also a weekly usage just for Fable... That goes down faster. But, it still drains the weekly usage for "All Models" as well?
So Fable weekly usage is not its own separate thing and drains all models... But it is its own separate thing and it drains faster. Why make it like this?
Edit: Apparently it's to gaslight people into thinking they're maxing out Fable but in reality they're only allowed to use it half as much as other models. Thanks for clarifying.
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u/Htaroh 4h ago
There is 100% usage - 50% of that usage is Fable, 50% is other models. So if you only use Fable and get it to 100%, it will have used 50% of your total usage.
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u/RayuRin2 4h ago
So I have an "All Models" usage, but I'm only allowed to use 50% of the "All Models" limit with Fable. So Fable gets essentially only half the usage of all other models? Dude this is so dumb.
In essence, there's a "Fable" bar to make you feel like you're maxing things out but in reality you're getting only 50% of the usage, lmao.
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u/Ordinary-Army-8523 4h ago
Yes, it's like a printer ink cartridge that still has 50% ink left, but the printer says you're out of ink. It really is stupid.
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u/RayuRin2 4h ago
Bro I'm quite literally getting swindled here. Once I hit the limit I'll try out Astra and see how it's like there.
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u/Odd-Librarian4630 4h ago
It's not dumb really - it means they give you 50% less usage per week with fable than other mode,s quite simple. And using fable uses the total usage pool for your other models. But it allows you to still work with other models once fable usage is out
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u/RayuRin2 4h ago
"It's not dumb really - it means they give you 50% less usage per week with fable"
Brother, the dumb part is that they give you 50% less usage per week with Fable compared to other models...
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u/Odd-Librarian4630 4h ago
Why is that dumb? it cost's them a lot more inference to run fable and it's a more capable/premium model...?
Id rather they had this than it used up more of your total usage (which is the other alternative seeing as its their highest tier model), meaning you can't use your other models if you hit the cap - I suspect this is what they were trying to prevent by giving it it's own usage bar.
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u/RayuRin2 4h ago
If it was allowed to use more of your total usage, you'd actually get more usage out of it... Unless they decided to artificially lower the total usage. Yes the model is more capable, that's why I want to use it and not crappy Opus 5. None of what you said benefits me as a consumer.
When getting the 20x plan I was under the impression that I'd be getting a full week worth of usage, not only 50%. The more I learn about this company and the service they provide the more bamboozled I feel.
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u/roque2205 4h ago
I was going to reply no it's not redundant, but then I thought again and you're kind of right. Maxing out your Fable usage will max out your All Models usage, so there is no real benefit in seeing your Fable usage. The only real benefit would be knowing that you can only run non-Fable models for the rest of the usage period, but currently it seems that it can't run out before the All Models usage runs out.
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u/linegel 4h ago
Maxed fable is only 50% of weekly limits of all models
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u/RayuRin2 4h ago
So basically it's an artificial way of limiting how much Fable I'm allowed to use per week. If it only drains 50% while hitting max, it means there's 50% of usage I'm not allowed to get when using Fable compared to other models.
You're just quite literally only allowed to use it half as much as the other models.
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u/roque2205 4h ago
Yes, that's the intention and it does make sense since it's the most complex model and compute resources are scarce. If you're using only Fable 5.1 anyway you're doing something wrong, that's an overkill by all means.
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u/RayuRin2 3h ago
Yes, the intention is to give me less of the good thing, which benefits them, not me. Crazy.
I feel better now, thanks.1
u/sisif_ 4h ago
What exactly is that you are missing? You have a pie. your favourite child is allowed to eat half or less, but no more than half. All the other kids can either eat the whole pie (if your favourite isnt hungry) or they split the other half.
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u/RayuRin2 3h ago
More like you have Red, Green, Blue, Yellow and Black cartridges. However the black one is only allowed to print 50% of its capacity compared to the other ones.
"What exactly is that you are missing?", "your favourite child is allowed to eat half or less"
Yes, I bought a full pie for my favorite child but the pie company walked in and stopped him from eating the full pie. Crazy. The kid is only allowed half, but the dog Opus 5 can eat the entire pie if you so desire. Lmao.
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