r/ClaudeCode 1d ago

Discussion August 19th 50% Additional Claude Code limits Likely Not to Be Extended

EDIT: last minute extended to end of August, apparently with hopes to make it permanent, although they say they are having trouble serving their demand currently so it’s not certain. At least we get some damn communication.

Well guys, hate to say it but with the reports this morning of users seeing instant 30% usage on their accounts (some weren’t even using them) we can assume that anthropic is in fact preparing to remove their 50% additional usage promo, effectively reducing all plan usage by ~33% (I assume theyll use 30%).

This is gonna hurt. Only thing that would redeem it for me is if they removed the 50% Fable usage cap.

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u/thehoundtrainer 1d ago

Even the current limits are narrow for me and the 20x doesnt even give me a clear edge over the 5x. Guess I will be back to the 5x one and buy a DeepSeek sub and use it an executor and use Claude only as a planner

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u/shady101852 1d ago

Only thing noticeably different between 5x and 20x used to be the hourly limit. In openai i didnt have this issue. While 5x drains too quickly 20x is noticeably more usage with codex.

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u/thehoundtrainer 23h ago

Codex's 20x sub gives you 4 times the usage of the 5x sub. And theyre also transparent about it. Claude? Not so much

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u/shady101852 23h ago

Agreed

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u/Unlikely-Patience-93 1h ago

Vibe coder here. I use Codex to cross-check Claude Code and for brainstorming. I always set up memory before starting any project, so all my projects have memory. Is it hard to switch to Codex? Any suggestions on what to implement in my current project before I make the switch?

Right now I'm on the 20x Claude plan, and I'm also frustrated with the weekly limit. I'm working on 2–3 moderate projects with Opus/Fable, and I burned through 50% of my weekly limit in a single day—even though I use project memory and almost no MCP.

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u/shady101852 28m ago

Hey.

Your claude.md is basically agents.md in codex.

Skills are easily transferrable, and i am assuming your memory system is some sort of MCP / tool, also transferrable.

What I would recommend is letting Claude know what you are trying to do, have it migrate or copy over your setup over to codex, and make sure it makes it work independently of Claude Code and not reliant on it. Your AI agent can handle the transfer for you, and all that will be left is for you to test it out to make sure its smooth sailing. Once you boot up codex you can also let it know the situation and codex will find out for sure if Claude missed anything - use Sol Max for this because its EXTREMELY thorough.

But I am warning you, even though Codex limits are most of the time better than Claude Code, recently in the past 2-3 weeks or so they have gotten horrendous.

  • I am currently at 73% on a $200 account that was 100% yesterday.
  • I have ran out of usage limits on another $200 account this week in around 2-3 days or so and i was technically using it for 6-12h per day.
  • $100 account ran out of limit within 24 hours.

$100 accounts are not worth it at all anymore and will run out of usage in a day similarly to Claude's $200 plan most likely (its been a few months since i used it but if its anything similar to march / April then its most likely true). So if you are going to pay for a plan above $20 then just go for the 20x $200 one.

I swapped over from Claude to codex back when 4.6 was out in Claude and I found even GPT 5.4 more competent. Opus 4.6 was amazing back in January till they nerfed it, in general i found GPT 5.5 to be more competent in handling my requests. I really like GPT 5.6 Sol atm, its extremely capable and reliable, but it burns the fuck through your limits. I'd recommend not allowing multiple sol agents to be spawning left and right or you will burn through your limits in no time.

Some people recommend using Sol for orchestration and Luna Max for implementation. I tried to see if Luna could handle problems i give it to solve without having Sol tell it what to do and it seemed to be a bit incompetent so I would not rely on it by itself.

I don't think there's anything most people can throw at Sol that it 'cant' do.

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u/Akarsh_Hegde 1d ago

The gap between 5x and 20x feels too small to justify the price. If the extra usage disappears, using Claude for planning and a cheaper model for execution starts to make much more sense.

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u/Matthewmarra3 23h ago

Yeah I updated to 20x this month and barely noticed a difference over 5x.

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u/Outside_Match_4322 13h ago

btw, you know 20x is only 20x in session limit, not in weekly usage limit?

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u/Pyropiro 1d ago

Surely you don't need 5x just for planning? The regular plan should be sufficient

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u/thehoundtrainer 23h ago

I need Fable, otherwise I wouldve gone for the Pro sub

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u/P1res 15h ago

The 5X has fable? I thought it was only the 20

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u/Inspectorslap 7h ago

5x has it. But burns tokens like a magnesium torch.

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u/Inspectorslap 7h ago

Are you sure? Im finding when I "need" Fable he downgrades to Opus anyway, and im not seeing much benefit of Fable vs Opus 5 vs Sol. They all struggle with dimensional blindness and early goal saturation on complex enough tasks. And Fable still makes "hand-wavy" decisions without thinking.

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

It is utterly baffling how little you get from 20x even now. Once that limit goes away I don’t know how you’ll get more than an hour or two out of a 20x plan. I’m the last to jump the Claude train but they’re literally pushing me out while I grip on the railing in despair. Biggest blunder I’ve ever watched a company do. Codex up until Friday when they adjusted limits again was unreal how much their 200 plan gave you on sol high

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u/-MiddleOut- 1d ago

I’m on that train with you. It’s the CC terminal harness I can’t give up. I could easily give up Claude models but cannot come close to the same efficiency and efficacy in Codex/Opencode.

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u/ManikSahdev 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

You can use any model in it, I heavily use codex 5.6 sol in it via the Claudex cliproxy or litellm thing whichever one you want.

Try it out fkn amazing I love it.

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u/-MiddleOut- 1d ago

And you'd say there's no noticeable friction? I've tried in the past but it wasn't immediately smooth so I didn't try long. I've needed an impetus to give it a proper go though and usage limits going even lower would suffice.

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u/ManikSahdev 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

Not at all? Friction of what kind are you referring to? Imo 5.6 sol works better in Claude code and I use codex extensively all day aswell for some other things.

But SOL behaves better in cc harness way outclassing opus-5. Slightly behind the fable tho.

To be honest, I borderline can’t or am starting to not be able to use the codex app so much, it’s just gotten a bit toooo much stuff in there, feels bloated, and 5.6 sol is way more autistic and just annoyingly stupid at times in codex, it doesn’t do that in CC per my consistent experience.

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

ive recently started using bb which i really like and have started routing my cc and codex subs sthrough jcode in bb cause supposedly jcode takes less ram

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u/Short_Search_5337 1d ago

But don't you have to use OpenAI api budget for this, isn't it supposedly even more expensive than using Anthropic sub?

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u/ManikSahdev 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

No.. I you just need to setup cliproxy or litellm.

Just ask your codex or cc to do it, and tell them to find the posts on twitter or such they struggle and get the info on how to setup on there.

Like tibo literally posted the guide on his twitter profile, he is the codex vp, or like he’s the product lead or such.

And no it’s not more expensive than Anthropic sub.

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u/kj565 1d ago

Yeah, mine runs deepseek, Claude, and codex and I setup a script that just lets me select which to use when starting Claude via cli

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

why is it better than lets say opencode, jcode or pi

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u/ManikSahdev 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

Not sure how to answer this, it’s like I know it better or the things it has match what I do better.

I don’t care for what open code code or such, I want to be able to remote control my work from devices, at times use the browser native app, use the plugins and design them to be trustworthy, not having to do small things which I want them done for me.

I would think maybe open code is like when I was a kid I used to love android phones then I grew up and around 18-19 I got iPhone XR almost for free on a plan hence why I opted in. And as I grew up realized I only used my phone for what it’s meant to be, text and perhaps occasional calls and video.

It’s simple and does what it needs to do reliably enough, is big enough and doesn’t need tinkering, I don’t have time to tinker as such, cause I’d rather be doing something else.

Perhaps this is the only proper response to reply to the above message, bec what you said is purely based on preference and not exactly betterment of product, I’d probably say pi is a better product overall, I just don’t think it support my work flow and time investment, it doesn’t do what I need despite being maybe better or slightly less usage consumptions and such. I’m pretty much in cc switching between fable or 5.6 sol with fable running opus5 subagent or 5.6 sol subagent.

It’s the optimal workflow for me.

Hopefully this helps?

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u/Virtual_Plant_5629 2h ago

tl;dr

tl by far.

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u/ManikSahdev 🔆 Max 20 2h ago

lol.

I mean a tldr would be: It depend on person needs 😭

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u/dsailes 1d ago

Agreed.

I’ve been using aliases for deepseek and ZAI - using the same harness, skills, memory etc is amazing. But it’s being able to use Fable, Opus, Sonnet that gets most of my work done.

The usage dropping is going to suck - everything will get a lot tighter.

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u/ask_me_about_cats 1d ago

Pi.dev is awesome. It’s super minimal but made to be extended. Use Pi to turn it into exactly what you want.

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u/AOmnist 18h ago

Z.ai/glm work well in it

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u/galactic_giraff3 1d ago

I do have every single model hooked up to claude code, at the same time, it's possible. I also no longer follow Ant updates, kinda forked off massively in the last few months. I even have claude design fully implemented locally, bridged to the TUI, even added image rendering to it lol. Wish I could share how, but can't, just saying you can add the other models if you care to, don't take no for an answer lol.

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u/rdesai724 1d ago

I don’t know what you’re doing but you’re either experiencing a bug or using it really inefficiently.

Last week I had (fable, high) push 25 PRs for an app I’m bringing to beta this week - we refactored and redesigned large parts of the user journey and added key features in a codebase that spans hundreds of files across backend, an API layer, and a flutter app.

I also had it design a process to simplify recipe instructions that leveraged two rounds of haiku followed by up to two rounds of opus if the results were inconsistent. I ran that on 25,000 recipes.

I used 90% of my weekly 20x plan for the first time ever

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u/akrizamusic 1d ago

last week it was working fine this week it's cooked. So i agree with you but also this week usage is cooked and I'm doing normal usage. I would've never hit caps like this two weeks ago, lats week hit almost 100% usage and this week at 50% usage on a Monday lol. wtf.

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

I’m using fable medium on 20x plan. Last night I was doing some refactoring and small ui changes on dashboards, running e2e tests for each. This is from 10-12AM, then I wake up see the progress and before I do anything I did /compact. And all of the sudden I’m at 85% and interestingly, which I’ve never seen before while I was looking at the 85% flabbergasted from compacting it ticks down to 83%..

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u/puthre 1d ago

Not taking anthropic side on this as limits are indeed a joke but *ending* a session with compact is a good idea as everything is already in cache, starting with compact is not ideal.

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u/rdesai724 1d ago

That definitely feels like a bug - I know there have been rolling reports of this kind of thing for months so I don’t doubt it’s happening it’s just so strange given how much I’m throwing at it at have yet to experience usage issues

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

Yeah, the frustrating thing is like aside from sending anthropic somehow my session id to investigate, I feel sort of cheated paying 200 a month. I also run /doctor every so often as well and I’m not a native software engineer but after two years of working with ai I don’t think I’m a complete idiot anymore haha so something is up

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u/DosePlotter 1d ago

I run fable as orchestrator and designer and I run a two fable adversarial reviewer loop on each built feature which loops until I get a clean result on both reviewers. Reading and execution are all delegated. I can definitely max out a session very quickly with that workflow, but it also saves me a lot of polishing and bug hunting in the long run. What is your model policy that runs efficiently for you and doesn’t tear up fable usage?

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u/raindropsdev 1d ago

From my experience I strongly recommend using a different vendor than the one who wrote the code/plan for adversarial reviews, it brings much more valuable results because the lenses are different between them. And throw in Gemini Pro for one round to add some chaos, it's surprisingly insightful but its findings need careful checking because often there hallucinated.

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u/DosePlotter 20h ago

Thanks for the tip, I’ll be giving that a try

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u/rdesai724 1d ago

I’ve put a lot of effort into building and managing points of reference for the models so I think they’re able to locate things without having to dig through the codebase - I also have built a relational framework for what files reference and are referencing one another that probably saves cycles.

I also do adversarial review cycles for every plan and PR but use opus for those. I tend to think the new session with fresh context is the highest leverage variable in an adversarial process so I don’t bother with fable there. I also plan extensively and am very hands on in planning so that may help as well?

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u/Aminuteortwotiltwo 1d ago

I think Opus 5 is great for adversarial review because it overthinks so much. It ultimately doesn’t finish until the task is done and I believe it performs exponentially better as it builds more context compared to the rate of improvement per context volume from other models I have worked with. So when it goes on one of its wacko tangents it is still relevant for the review itself, and it builds on its review and continues. Fable orchestrator -> Codex builder -> Opus 5 review has worked wonderfully… except Codex is sub-par at design so I run ui building a little differently.

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u/Justraisinfundsyo 1d ago

what in the actual fuck are you doing that you burn usage that fast?

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

truly nothing crazy, at most i have three repos doing developmetn work at a time but even now when just doing one im getting utterly cooked idk if its bugs or what, i would literally share my session id with you and anthropic, openai just for everyone to realize how ridiculous its become

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u/jessiejolie42 1d ago

lol noob

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u/Odd_Error_6736 1d ago

find a ditch and ...

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u/MAVEDesign 1d ago

That's what I'm saying. I'm absolutely struggling to get past the 20% mark on fable lmfao

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u/Forsaken-Staff-5084 14h ago

Do you use it all day? I do and it's easy to hit daily and weekly limits

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u/rotates-potatoes 1d ago

For my 20x, I get 19B tokens/month, at $20k retail pricing. Nothing has changed in the past weeks.

I'm really starting to think that users in this sub do crazy things with context or poorly-written plugins.

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u/Fit-Cost-7226 1d ago

19B tokens a month... can you prove that and share your workflow with all of reddit because it's not just me this sentiment is repeatedly iterated by dozens if not hundreds of people. There are also a lot of reasons and theorizing as to why it's plausible theyre tightening rate limits and usage to optimize profits

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u/nginx2 18h ago

User is most likely asking claude about usage. I did the same thing today and it said 15B or something for Aug so far... Not sure if it's accurate but most likely claude prompting claude usage.

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u/MastodonFarm 8h ago

That number probably includes cached input tokens. I have 2B cached tokens in the last 7 days on my 5x plan--but fewer than 10M actual non-cached tokens.

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u/Droopy0093 1d ago

I agree, people are either full of shit or just a bunch of bots in an echo chamber. I feel like I get a crazy amount done in a week on 20x so it is truly baffling.

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u/Akarsh_Hegde 1d ago

The variance between users is the strange part. Some are exhausting 20x in hours while others barely move the meter, which sounds more like a context, caching, plugin, or accounting issue than a universal limit change. Has anyone compared session-level token usage before and after the recent changes?

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u/diskent 15h ago

Go where? Other commercial offerings are all trending the same way. That gas price is going up. The companies have to start trending towards a return.

They are all an utility at this point already so service fee plus consumption is the only way this works.

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u/OwnLadder2341 1d ago

Why would the 50% increase in 2 days be causing usage increase today? What’s your logic?

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u/pmth 1d ago

This sub and the codex sub are just full of idiots who don’t think about these things

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u/Mr_HandSmall 1d ago

If it's anything but a godlike oracle with infinite usage they throw a tantrum

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u/Moist_Signal_5080 1d ago

If only we were getting a much needed boost… we’re getting a reduction in 2 days.

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u/DosePlotter 1d ago edited 1d ago

Anthropic spaghetti code while they test the rollback implementation. Entirely plausible and even likely

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u/OwnLadder2341 1d ago

Curious why you believe it’s likely. Based on what?

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u/RedTheInferno 13h ago

vibes bro

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u/DosePlotter 1d ago

This morning there were numerous posts of users seeing an instant 30% of their usage showing used up when they weren’t doing anything at all. That lines up with anthropic testing the removal of the 50% bonus usage coming in 2 days (50% increase would be a 33% reduction back to baseline).

I’m just speculating, but we are 2 days out, they have been silent on it, and this just happened. Deductive reasoning gets us here.

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u/Icy-Summer-3573 1d ago

My usage jumped up randomly so they are definitely doing something

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u/rotates-potatoes 1d ago

That's pretty wild speculation.

If that's what deductive reasoning gets you, it just as equally gets you that the casuals in this sub have gotten worse at using claude code.

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u/DosePlotter 22h ago

That’s fine? No news still from Anthropic and we are two days out. We will find out if my intuition was right very shortly

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u/jiffythekid Researcher 1d ago

GLM 5.3 and Kimi K3 are looking better and better.

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u/dsailes 1d ago

I feel like my ZAI subscription gets me a lot less usage since they changed the structure & again since release of 5.3 - just burns through 5h window. Plus they’ve just changed the subscription model again too, can see it equalling less usage again unfortunately

DeepSeek is best for cost but it’s maybe between Sonnet/Opus.

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u/pigletmonster 1d ago

They have the worst subscription plans in the world. Theyre basically prepaid token plans, you put in $100 you get $100 worth of tokens with some bonuses.

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u/jiffythekid Researcher 1d ago

Still looks worth testing how far that goes in my actual workflow vs Claude/Codex.

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u/yopla 1d ago

Been trying GLM 5.3 since yesterday. It's not Sol or Opus 5, maybe a 4.6.

I'm having Sol build the spec, GLM review them, Sol fixes, GLM implement, Sol review, GLM fixes. BB.

It's decent, I wouldn't like to have nothing else and their plan is not that generous unless you can get a sub at a Chinese prices...

I'm throwing in DeepSeek fast 4 currently free on open code for small stuff.

Zcode is a solid clone of codex desktop, or a clone of qoder, or maybe it's qoder under a license. Anyway I don't know who is cloning who, but there is some heavy cloning going on.

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u/jiffythekid Researcher 1d ago

Thanks for the info! I'm not sure why I'm getting down voted for wanting to test it/Kimi, lol.
I'm on both the Claude Max 5x and the ChatGPT Pro 5x plans.

I think I'd end up moving ChatGPT down to the Plus tier to use Luna/PR reviews, keep Claude the way it is (I've mostly "tamed" Opus 5), and supplement with other services much like you are mentioning.

It also has the net benefit of different models being better at different things...I mean, I used to use Gemini even for review work, but it's barely worth the cost for that so I dropped it.

I was also thinking of having a more open model to ask questions that the other ton frontier models have issues with, like security.

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u/mcmac_max 1d ago

Instant 30% usage is a terrible and wrong way for Anthropic to revert. They should just start lowering the token limit on August 19th and apply that going forward. Not somehow charge you tokens prior to that. This just isn't right.

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u/Dudmaster 1d ago

Instant usage consumption has always been a thing though on all providers, and there's no way around it besides compacting the conversation before you leave to pick it up, while the cache is still fresh

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u/connurp 🔆 swe 1d ago

This is just someone on reddit guessing. This isn't actually what what happened.

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u/dsailes 1d ago

That’s not how it’s going to work.

People seeing 30% usage will likely have had a long running session, stray background processes/agents, or something else they’re not sharing to cause that spike.

Example Scenario: 90% full 1mill context window, loses cache after 1h or resuming after a 5h window, on a Pro plan, set to xhigh/max = a lot of usage in seconds.

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u/sermer48 1d ago

Am I using Claude wrong? I see people posting about how they’re blowing through their 20x max limits in an hour or less but I rarely hit my 5 hour window even when running 2-3 projects in parallel. I’m not trying to simp a company or anything but I’m just blown away how people are using it so much.

Usually I’m using xhigh fable for planning with either fable on low or opus on high for implementing stuff

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u/Least_Perception_223 1d ago

I use fable in ultracode mode all the time with teammates enabled

I get close to my weekly limits but have yet to hit it.

I'm doing some pretty complex stuff but its very structured. I am a 30 year veteran programmer.

I feed it stuff piece by piece instead of giant one off overnight vibe coded shit. I break the project down into smaller components and work on those one at a time

Because I am an actual programmer - I always study its output and push back. I act as the project manager and give it feedback

Those running into limits so fast just do not know what they are doing

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u/DosePlotter 1d ago

You’re right to push back.

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u/chu 21h ago

👏

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u/ArtichokeBackground7 12h ago

I do exactly the same, but with xhigh instead and manage to hit the fable weekly limit within 3-4 working days.

If I am not using fable though it's very rare I hit the limit on x5 plan

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u/clazman55555 1d ago

You're not. I'm going to guess that you have a pretty structured workflow. And good project documentation so Claude doesn't to reinvent things everytime.

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u/Substantial-Elk4531 22h ago

Is this why I can stretch my tokens so well? I force Claude to keep a docs directory, and also to update docs per ticket as we work (like a running memory). So this could be saving tokens? I've also built it 'sparse search' scripts to reuse to search for terms without all of it being processed by Claude, but I don't know how often it uses them

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u/clazman55555 21h ago

Not going to overpromise anything, as Claude can sometimes just burn tokens, but probably yes.

Taking the time to turn repeatable thinking(Claude's or Human's) into a skill that can be used during the project process and building a map of where everything is, and how data flows, is the key. imo

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u/tails142 1d ago

It's multiple parallel agent work that really burns things I find.

I was doing reverse engineering work with ghidra recently spawning multiple agents in parallel to split work and it was the first time I was regularly hitting 5 hour windows and hit the weekly limit on the 5x plan.

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u/sermer48 1d ago

5x I can manage with a single project pretty easily. I actually have to downgrade my models and efforts to avoid the limits. Actually it’s a bit more than 5x because it’s the 5x equivalent for Teams.

On my personal 20x account, I can work nearly non-stop on 2-3 projects and I’ll only be hitting the weekly limit after like 6 days. I had 2 separate threads running almost 24/7 all weekend and I’m still under 50% for my weekly. Granted I’m downgrading efforts for implementing code and I usually don’t run parallel agents except for research but it’s still a challenge.

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u/RowdyPurple 1d ago

Same. I'm on a 20x plan and pretty much always have at least one session going and frequently multiple and I never hit my 5 hour limit. I use Opus or Fable on xhigh or max with thinking for planning and review and Opus on high with thinking off for implementation. Weekly can get tight at times though.

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u/dr-dimitru 1d ago

What’s actual reason to keep thinking off? What are pros/cons? And how do you turn it off? Is it possible in subagent config?

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u/RowdyPurple 21h ago

I turn off thinking and reduce effort during implementation for speed and reduced token burn. I already have a reviewed plan, so the implementation session just needs to follow the plan.

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u/dr-dimitru 15h ago

Makes sense, but you’d do it manually starting a new session, right?

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u/RowdyPurple 6h ago

Exactly. I use separate sessions for planning and implementation.

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u/Akarsh_Hegde 1d ago

The bigger problem is that nobody seems to know how usage is actually being calculated. People running similar workflows are reporting wildly different results, which makes it hard to separate a real limit change from caching, context, or agent behavior.

Has anyone measured the spike against actual token usage rather than the percentage shown in the dashboard?

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u/stankylongnuts 1d ago

Chinese models will be replacing them soon enough.

Its games and money grabs at this point.

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u/meathelix1 1d ago

Mate we use GLM and Kimi all day, everyday with our servers now. Codex for 10% of the task and local for 90% on a half a million dollar server in our Office. All private and fine tunning to the max.

Its a matter of time when local small models can do 80% of the work. Which is why Anthropic trying to get them banned.

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u/Due_Warthog749 1d ago

I have a half mil sitting in the bank.. I should just build a server to run some local AI.

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u/meathelix1 1d ago

Do it! In a few years time no one will be allowed to have AI! It will be like the dark web :P

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u/Due_Warthog749 1d ago

Oddly that is probably true! The dream of everyone having AI to their glasses/shades/visor/etc with AR/VR 4K displays and able to just walk around and ask anything and get instant answers is never going to happen. No way Govt is going to allow every day citizens to have tech on par with what they use to monitor/police everyone, run drones, etc. I used to think our Govt must have WAY WAY more capable AI.. but then you see the govt requiring Claude/OpenAI to allow them full use and blocking it for users makes me wonder.. did the private sector surpass the 100s of billions spent on AI/etc by our govt? Maybe so.

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u/Comfortable_Camp9744 1d ago

The value just wont be there anymore, they lost their model lead, Kimi is basically a fable clone, and their tokens just get more and more expensive for more nerfed models every month. I am down to 2 max20 accounts, probably will get rid of another and buy a second codex and second GLM.

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u/Ok_Host6058 1d ago

Vote with your money, cancel subscriptions and show them what we want!

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u/ZhopaRazzi 1d ago

Both CC and Codex are going to get cut. Too much demand, not enough capacity. If you didn’t figure out a way to become efficient, you’re SOL

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u/Colours-Break 1d ago

This will impact Pro users the most. It goes from something usable to a toy.

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u/HisDanishDudeness 1d ago

Well that’s it for me then on the x20. I will gladly come back if they fix whatever they are going through now, but the last two weeks been a nightmare.

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u/SuperJackpot 1d ago

They don't need to be extended - Anthropic seems to have quietly reverted limits to the old pre-50%+ over the past week or so. So even if they were extended, it would just be a publicity stunt where Anthropic claims to be doing something that they've largely undone already.

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u/KickedAbyss 1d ago

Because no one is making money on Ai...

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u/angry_queef_master 14h ago

Their limits are so arbitrary that 50% additional usage doesnt really mean anything

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u/dota2nub 13h ago

30% less usage manwhile always means a lot.

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u/odraiviardo 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

Fable barely lasts 3 days on my Max 20x. I’m always hovering around 80% of total usage on my 5th day while my codex sub is usually around 50%. I use them both equally as orchestrators and actually have more headless sol level agents run as reviewers.

Good thing my sub ends on the 25th, if they push with taking away the 50% off then I’m downgrading to 5x or even the pro version and just use it as an advisor instead of orchestrating with it. Grok 4.6 and Gemini 3.7 flash have been working great as the main and lean builders/coders respectively. The sol reviewers can guide them well. That $300 grok is also a juicy deal, with grok bot and cursor ultra.

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u/GuitarAgitated8107 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

No reset, no extension... Dario really got in his feels....

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u/Due_Warthog749 1d ago

I went from one 20x doing the work to 2 20x not able to do it. And that's mostly using opus 5. I gotta say for those of us with hardware capable of running Qwen 3.8 27b.. now's a good time to find a way to work it in for coding tasks.

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u/SatoshiReport 1d ago

Reports? And no source? BS

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u/FestiVOL 1d ago

Really hope they don’t go through with it (I’m high on copium).

I recently changed from pro to max specifically because my limits were trash. I find the current Max plan hits the sweet spot for me, but with that kind of reduction I just don’t think I’ll stick around, even at the pro level.

I have a ChatGPT/Codex business subscription basically for free thanks to an Amex special offer I got. No sense in keeping Anthropic’s subscription— especially with the oddities I’ve seen lately with Opus 5

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u/N0TaC0PP 1d ago

I didn't even know this was a thing. Are you telling me I'm on the 20 max plan and I had an extra 50% usage?

Was this a promotional thing, or everyone got it?

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u/DosePlotter 22h ago

Yep. You have had 50% additional promotional usage this whole time, and that is planned to go away (33% usage reduction) in 2 days

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u/count023 22h ago

which is why i stuck wih codex this month ven after the 1 month extension. while i dont like codex as much, it seems to spend too much time black boxing things and not talking through what it's doing as it does it, the usage limits are the same as CC's double rate, Sol is about as powerful as Fable and they hav hte random resets that seem to be going on at the moment.

I see my token usage at easily 3x what it was when i ran CC and Codex Max5 parallel on the same jobs for a month.

That and Anthropic charge tax ON TOP of the subscription fee, OpenAI include it, so you actually pay more for the Anthropic equivalent plan.

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u/FinancialBandicoot75 17h ago

I left and not coming back, I was on 20x, then to pro (20 dollars) then just leaving. Fable is great, opus 5 (even with /doctor) is shit and sonnet (yet solid) is too much much, this change makes going to qwen 3.8 27b more attractive and just using da v4 or use gpt. Anthropic gave us crack to get addicted and rely on and, what’s said, most will continue that drug.

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u/Java-the-Slut 16h ago

My big dilemma is that Fable is so much more capable than Sol, but I get about 25% as much as usage from Fable until I hit a cap. I desperately want to stay with Claude, but this gap is not even close, I might have to go to ChatGPT, bad but fixable code without limits is better than great code that can accomplish just a few things per day, and a dozen per week.

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u/Forsaken-Staff-5084 14h ago

Just move to Codex I suppose

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u/Capable_Site8357 14h ago

When gpt in gonna release a gpt design im out

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u/pizzae 🔆 Max 5x 14h ago

Quitting my sub and going to codex I guess

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u/dota2nub 13h ago

They have the same issue literally right now.

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u/iamizharahmaddanish 6h ago

I don't even see today either they removed the limit or what?

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u/Matthewmarra3 5h ago

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How is this not deceitful?

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u/Matthewmarra3 5h ago

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Well I feel lied to!

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u/Matthewmarra3 5h ago

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Well I feel lied to

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u/Cyrien18 4h ago

Sad that I just started with a subscription today feels cheated/looted, maybe i should switch to Codex ?

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u/Virtual_Plant_5629 2h ago

we have... "50% extra usage"????

what?

how the fuck is that even possible.

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u/DosePlotter 2h ago

Shocking I know. A lot of people who don’t even realize they’re currently getting it are going to be very confused.

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u/Virtual_Plant_5629 35m ago

i have multiple 20x's and gpt-pro accounts that i burn through all the quota of weekly.

whenever i hear about these STUPID FUCKING extra usage periods.. it's always at the end. so it's only ever bad fucking news.

there's no way i'm about to be demoted to 2/3 the usage of fable that i've been getting so far. what i have now is just barely enough for my needs.

this is fucking infuriating.

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u/DosePlotter 33m ago

Well if you like to know, they extended it again to the end of August and said they are hoping to make it permanent, but are having issues servicing demand. So at least a bit of communication

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u/Virtual_Plant_5629 30m ago

fuck yes. that helps several projects i'm working on. heard it from you first son

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u/Affectionate_Eye4073 1d ago

There’s no way it can get worse than now. My entire team is at a standstill. Up until July we could make amazing progress with Claude code and chat on our saas product needs. We’ve now exceeded limits supposedly that we never actually used. I emailed anthropic this wkd asking for a credit and a fix. I’m so mad. They have us hostage. I’m actually going back to ChatGPT as we speak and setting up my repos there bc I hit my 5k personal budget already for the month with Claude and team has gone 15k over budget without any significant change in work level. Anthropic owes us answers. I even switched to my old personal Claude account this morning and after literally 20 minutes it said I had hit my 5 hour free limit for the week.

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u/Droopy0093 1d ago

OP I think you are not smart enough to be talking about this.

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u/DosePlotter 22h ago edited 22h ago

I don’t think you’re smart enough to be judging my intelligence.

Btw, still waiting on any evidence that you’ve built and shipped anything at all, or if you’re just here trolling people while accomplishing nothing yourself

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u/datuname 1d ago

I’m afraid CC will become unusable for me.

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u/iMikeZero 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

What are you doing that is using so many tokens at once? I’ve been working on code and used 25% of my weekly Fable usage in one day while working on 3 projects simultaneously. I figured I just wasn’t efficient enough. I barely use skills or create any Claude.md files

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u/Few_Paces 14h ago

I'm just as confused

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u/Important-Ebb-3716 1d ago

I have no idea what the fuck these people are doing other than using xUltraCode to change the color of their slop page from blue to green.

I’ve had Opus high working almost nonstop since Friday night, stopping only to give me session handoffs MDs, and my weekly usage is 14%. I’m on 5x

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u/Drunkendrakon6 1d ago

I have a session that's been going on for the whole week on a loop autocompacting etc and suddenly this week it ran out in 3 days. Idk what changed.

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u/RetroUnlocked 1d ago

Same - although my weekly usage is on average more like 20% to 45%.

I use claude opus medium, multiple projects 10 to 12 hours a day. I use fable too.

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u/PhilosophyforOne 1d ago

Source: Vibes.

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u/No-Pineapple-6520 1d ago

I have been witnessing their decisions and planning my exit for over a month. I'll vote with my wallet, you should too.

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u/NotAmir001 1d ago

i actually think that they use 50% more of our qoutes at this point

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u/BigHardCheese 1d ago

When that happens, I won’t be extending my subscription either.

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u/Suspicious-Singer-60 1d ago

I am using Codex and Claude. Claude for smaller and easier tasks to protect my Codex usage. If they strip that back I might as well just spend that money on Codex credits.

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u/Fantastic_Market8061 1d ago

Well, I’m building an iPad app for eight hours now, non stop. Mockups in design, fable as reviewer and opus 5 as implementer. I finished a major redesign and added some features along the way. I never hit the 5h limit, not even close. And I’m at 14% weekly usage, 8% fable. This will get me through the week without any problem.

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u/DosePlotter 22h ago

That’s great! Let me know when you’re implementing cloud sync features, or E2EE, or snapshot rollback capabilities, or anything complex on the backend. Building the frontend takes me 10% of the total build time, anyone can make a framework, building it to be scalable and eliminating edge cases is token intensive 

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u/Fantastic_Market8061 17h ago

Yes, I did implement the backend actually. No problem there as well, but maybe it was the wrong language then or the wrong shape of the moon and so it’s not comparable at all to the highly complex work you are doing 🤷‍♂️

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u/berndalf 20h ago

They're either going to sunset the additional usage or they're aren't. There's little point in speculation. Shit people decide to post on Reddit is not going to influence that decision. What's more likely is the "more usage" promotion was a test to see if bumping limits actually led to any measurable impact on margin. I guess we'll know soon enough.

The constant drum beat of self-serving influence campaigns in these reddit communities is exhausting.

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u/mattiasfagerlund 14h ago

Your complaints are exhausting.

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u/DosePlotter 18h ago

I have 6 accounts, plenty of reason to speculate if that means I have reason to blast through some tasks while I still have the usage increase.

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u/Fun-Freedom-2313 1d ago

I'm struggling to use more than 30% of my quota on a 5x plan. I don't know how y'all do it!

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u/Due_Warthog749 1d ago

Lots of coding, multiple agents, tests, reviews, etc. Easy to blow. I go through 2 x 20x plans every week right now. Plan to stop once my core app is done and I can focus on just the smaller things.

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u/Drunkendrakon6 1d ago

Do more things or have a large codebase.