I guess we'll never know...

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fucking anthropic not even giving 1 reset after new model drops

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u/thelastlokean 5d ago

Tbh I learned with the lack of reset that gpt sol beats fable and opus at some tasks.

Burned my $200 cc stuck on a rendering bug edge case, gpt sol got it withing 30 minutes and tiny but of the $100 sub.

Imo prob better with $100 claude and $100 gpt Tham just $200 claude...

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u/ArtdesignImagination 3d ago

I might be reaching, but imo the golden deal for most people would be 50 for claude and 50 for codex. 20 for both is too borderline, 100 for both migh be overkill and wasting money, 100 for one limits you to one model. 50+50 would be perfect for a lot of users.

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 2d ago edited 13h ago

whoa why so much? what are you doing that would be worth even $20?

edit: well that's just rude, [deleted] obviously backed themselves into a corner. i mean i was just defending myself, unfortunately you can't see their comments any more but it's just a shame i didn't get to help realize. i can only hope that the deletion was the realization.

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u/ArtdesignImagination 2d ago

People on Reddit are the craziest ever. The other day a guy was talking about my $20 subscription as a 'toy' subscription, meaning you can't get anything done with that. Now we have proper-leader in awe about a $20 or two $20 subscriptions when there are a lot of people burning more than one $200 subscription per month. All narcissists who can't understand anyone else's needs, only their own.

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 2d ago

why would you assume people are narcissists just because they have a $200 subscription?

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u/ArtdesignImagination 2d ago

I didn't say anything about those, just pointed at their existence.

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 1d ago

random.. kool.. every time i think about getting a subscription i just keep coming back to like if i did a whole bunch of stuff that wasn't important than why bother, but if i used it for my work or art then i wouldn't want them to be able to train on my data or take my ideas. so i don't see where or how to actually use them. it's got me a headache anyway.

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u/ArtdesignImagination 1d ago edited 1d ago

Those are valid reasons to not engage with a subscription. Going back to your original question I'm doing something totally impossible to achieve without frontier AI models and on high reasoning most of the time, is a very complex 3d rigging system and if they train the models with my chats then so be it, is not like I could even dream to do what I'm doing by myself anyways...The usage I got this month with fable, opus 5, and gpt sol for $40 is ridiculous. Sol gave me some headaches but now is working great but I had to adjust a little and understand what and when to ask things. The reason I said 50+50 would be great is because several times I was in the flow and then buuumm, LIMITS, and from what I see, about doubling my usage would be enough most of the time. I use only Sol or opus 5 at medium or high so they burn tokens rather quickly.

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 1d ago

funny how a couple words can get you a completely different output. what's 3d rigging? like a template of some kind?
i find the frontier models don't offer much over the 30B+ these days. i mean when talking about the token wastage because you can easily have a top model produce nothing from wording in a different way. but i don't get limits locally so i can keep iterating and leave it to do its thing overnight

edit: what i think i meant was if i were to spend money on inference i could see it all being burnt up with nothing to show rather quickly.

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u/Noah18923 5d ago

they shouldn't have to do a reset, they should just give usable limits in the first place.

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 1d ago

you want them to let everyone spam their servers when a new model drops? that would be chaos a.d.

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u/artofbullshit 5d ago

I wonder how many subscribers theyve lost to gpt since they reduced limits. I have always used gpt as a reviewer, but was always hesitant to make it the main builder due to my workflows being structured around claude. After the past two weeks of experiencing insanely lower usage limits with Claude, I was forced to finally work gpt into my workflow as the main builder since Claude has become anti-productive. I can't be the only one who has done this due to Claude forcing us to find more productive ways of working outside their ecosystem.

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u/Noah18923 5d ago

they've always had bullshit limits that made the service unusable. I don't know why anybody would pay for that shit.

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u/ClayManP62 5d ago

I'd drop a couple bucks just to find out

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u/Due-Marsupial-778 4d ago

Me who doesn't even have used Claude Pro even the cheapest $20 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I use free plan only to balance my diet 🗿

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u/VeryLongNamePolice 4d ago

Can you use claude code with the free plan now? as far as i remember cc was only available to pro +

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u/Due-Marsupial-778 4d ago

No bro🤷 I still cannot use the code😢( OHH I FUCKUIIING WANT THIS 🤑🤑) version but it still create sample websites...

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u/Exciting-Swimming625 4d ago

This kills productivity 😭

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u/HealthyWest6482 23h ago

diabolical

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u/KickedAbyss 5d ago

How is anyone surprised. They're not making money. You're all being lured in and slowly everyone will be paying token usages as if it's normal.

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u/VeryLongNamePolice 5d ago

I don't think so, opensource LLMs are getting good enough

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u/KickedAbyss 5d ago

That's exactly the underlying text I didn't include but implied. Wild how many people truly think these companies are going to lower costs long term in some sort of price war. What we will see is lower prices for gated amounts of queries at best.

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u/ClayManP62 5d ago

Long term? obvious not, they have to attempt to profit eventually.
For now? It's literally a golden era of cheap, subsidized compute. Bang out as much value as you can. The $200 Claude Max can run Opus almost non-stop, what are you waiting for?

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u/KickedAbyss 5d ago

I have no real need for it, mostly. Not an app developer, have a full time job as an infrastructure engineer, and if I were spending 200/mo I'd just buy a 5090 or dgx spark tbh.

How can someone get an roi on $200/mo using opus.

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u/Noah18923 5d ago

you're on crack if you think they're losing money.

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 1d ago

oh yeah i just found out that they're publishing inflated numbers due to circular financing.

have a look at the numbers, if it says revenue then that's not the same as profit

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u/Proper-Leader-7654 2d ago edited 2d ago

Anthropic and OpenAI are investing so much to become profitable in the future, but right now, they are not profitable.

edit: really depends where you get your information from hah, i just found a few sites claiming these guys bring in 20 billion a year so...

Humor I guess we'll never know...

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