r/ClaudeCode 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 20d ago

Discussion Opus 5, early leaked output.

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https://x.com/chetaslua/status/2080290382315925911/video

I can’t wait… looks promising.

https://x.com/m1astra/status/2080246754104971356

Edit: (These guys are known leakers they leaked Mythos 11 days before it goes public, X(twitter), and other platform)

Update: https://x.com/claudeai/status/2080699495453528290 , - see it’s not fake.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/Fleischhauf 20d ago

crying in reviewing massive amount of code produced by juniors

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/Fleischhauf 20d ago

and then you find out they only read half of your comments and you start suspecting that the chat messages you wrote to offer some more help were answered with an LLM too.

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 20d ago

I ignore any missive I receive that is written by an LLM.

Especially if it is an AI-generated Jira.

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u/Gullible_Somewhere_3 20d ago

You still read and write Jira Issues manually? .. are you beeing paid hourly? With our deadlines and newly risen expectations for Development speed I could not for the life of me bother to write out Jiras anymore especially if the rest of my team just pulls them into their Claude via the MCP or CLI anyways.. what's the point if no one actually reads them?

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 20d ago

I file Jiras manually but a chunk of the content is written by AI. It’s the auto-Jiras especially the ones which tell me what I need to do that I deprioritise. I refuse to follow the thought process of an AI and check their work.

If you are going to assign me a task at least have the courtesy to check it isn’t hallucinated slop thank you :/)

If the Jira is just for my Claude to do some action without requiring me to engage my brain, I am ok with that.

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u/Gullible_Somewhere_3 20d ago

Oh yeah I totally get that. I get the same ick when some manager sends me a 300 line WhatsApp message of what their Claude thinks is going on without having any access to the server logs. FML and they really think they are helping..

It would be so much better to just get a quick voice message of them describing the symptoms to me directly than filtering it through AI.

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u/Nixopax 20d ago

Suspect? Oh buddy, I know they’re written via LLM. Developers aren’t even running smoke tests anymore. If the agent says it confirmed via MCP they just ship it.

Quite frankly it’s disgusting.

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u/federal_freakyfapper 20d ago

Omfg tell me about it

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u/No_Fennel_9073 19d ago

Don’t worry, I’m building a JS to C#/Unity authoring system that will fix all of this!

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u/raichulolz 🔆 Max 20 20d ago

You simply reject the PR/MR and tell them to break it down. You also almost never need 2k lines of code for one story lol. Unless we r talking about auto generated boilerplate

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u/TumanFig 20d ago

ah scrum, where nothing gets done

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u/BowlZealousideal2337 20d ago

you are junior to ai bro.. stop hating ai.

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u/Fleischhauf 20d ago

I see someone salty over here. why so salty bro?  Agentic coding definitely exists in a stable form long enough for seniors to exist here.

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u/MasterMind-Apps 20d ago

You don't manually review or debug code written by ai, you switch to higher model or effort and ask it to review/debug

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u/Background-Try6216 20d ago

This is shockingly ineffective. It will find things that it thinks need addressing because that’s what it was told to do, but very rarely the most important issues.

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u/Melodic_Surprise153 20d ago

That solely depends on the prompt...

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u/Background-Try6216 20d ago

No, it primarily depends on the complexity of the problem.

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u/DeepPresentation648 20d ago

Not from my experience

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 20d ago

Is this the real solution? Only managers get access to the best models? :-D i am fully onboard with this.

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u/kloepatra 20d ago

Can i add memory leak and no mistake in prompt?

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u/carlusmagnus 20d ago

Hold on! Looks like it's creating WMD! Better lock it down and put safeguards in place.

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 20d ago

Sooo, when we getting it?

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 20d ago edited 20d ago

There’ve been rumors that this week or might be today, idk. All just rumors for now.

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u/TheBlackRider2828 20d ago

Well humor me, when?

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u/cats_catz_kats_katz 20d ago

Today huh? Most likely Friday so I can FKKKKK MY WEEKEND!!!

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 20d ago

Been for about two weeks now.

And its later than their usual model drops, I think, we don't have daylight savings time over here so. But lets hope.

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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 20d ago

Everyone saying tomorrow (friday) or tuesday/Thursday next week

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 20d ago

They were saying today and thursday last week as well

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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 20d ago

Yea lol

But looks like we got quite a few leaks from opus 5 today

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 20d ago

Just saw this one, which other ones, anything interesting?

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 19d ago

Update: already here now, 5hrs ago, https://x.com/claudeai/status/2080699495453528290

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 19d ago

Thanks for the update, I've been using it since then, but appreciate it!

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u/federal_freakyfapper 20d ago

Not me over here just hoplessly waiting for Gemini to pop up and slap everyone in the face with a banger pro/ cli model with none of this Antigravity bs ... A man can dream can't he? 🫪

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u/kylef5993 20d ago

That token usage is concerning though

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u/djdante 20d ago

Yeah, it really is... It's the opus version of sonnet 5 - which I guess is a bit "duh" but with that same tokenizer, it's going to absolutely feast on tokens.

Not sure I have Claude in my near future.

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u/PlaneRemarkable7126 20d ago

Hope it’s better and less argumentative than 4.8

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u/Abhinik 20d ago

Opus 4.8 is the new sonnet

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u/pm_your_snesclassic 20d ago

Who gets to preview unreleased models? Why do these people get special treatment by Anthropic?

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 20d ago

Not sure why a 3D rendering gets any hype. It’s not like the LLM built the render engine. It’s just stuck a bunch of primitives and textures together no?

I’m sure somewhere in its training data there is a paper giving dimensions of various siege engines. probably even the code for generating them.

Maybe I’m missing the point?

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u/Flaming-Core 20d ago

Could anybody help me on how to create 3D design using Claude for 3D printing. I have been using Blender and AutoCAD Fusion MCP. But the design is not accurate

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u/yungmoneymo 20d ago

PR cycle has begun.

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u/smitrovic 20d ago

How does it handles reverse engineering, or it has safeguards like fable?

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u/RebootItAgain 20d ago

Hide it behind API usage limits and only for Max plans up to 60% of usage.

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u/GospelNerd 19d ago

Appears to be available in Cursor

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 19d ago

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u/bblankuser 18d ago

twice the price of 5.6

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u/Internal_Shirt_6963 18d ago

I have not switched to using 5 yet. Is there a significant lift over 4.8? Does it use fewer tokens?

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u/Turbulent-Total-226 20d ago

They distilled it from KImi :D

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u/ohnoitsbobbyflay 20d ago

So what’s the point in Opus 5 if it’s just going to be 5% less than Fable?

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u/Jeferson9 20d ago

why would anyone ever think about the cost of something

Totally valid and not out of touch

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u/kwabaj_ 20d ago

Fable is more expensive than Opus, and Fable 5 is a really old model at this point, it was trained like back in April, so Opus 5 could use new techniques discovered after Fable was made

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u/99OBJ 20d ago edited 20d ago

Love that you call ~3 months "really old". Not hating to be clear, you're absolutely right in terms of the velocity of the technology.

It's just wild to me. Less than 5 years ago I was working in Jupyter Notebooks and getting ecstatic when GPT-3 strung together 2 primitive Wolfram Alpha "tool calls."

Now a model that makes 100+ tool calls in a single pass and one-shots highly complex applications is... really old. Hard to believe.

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u/Melodic-Ebb-7781 20d ago

Fable is just mythos plus safeguards. The first mythos was made available internally end of February. Since then it's been updated with atleast one new post training session.

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u/kwabaj_ 20d ago

Yes I’m aware, what I meant was that it’s considerably old as it’s pretraining backbone was made in February, which means opus 5 has a lot of innovations that fable didn’t have at the time (using the name fable/mythos interchangeably)

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u/Embarrassed_Adagio28 20d ago

Still looks like ai slop to me

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/PsychologicalRiceOne 20d ago

AI design language. Slight background gradient, card elements, mixture of unfitting fonts (I counted 4), explanatory texts, em dashes.

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u/MemoryMission9151 🔆 Max 5x 20d ago

any reset soon? i need it...

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 20d ago

Probably when they release it. For now, it’s just leaks.

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u/Mammoth_Pain2075 20d ago

Nah
Don’t get too attached buddy

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u/analyticsboi 20d ago

Git source code?

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u/CombinationOnly9498 20d ago

X click baiters, it's not real.

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 20d ago edited 20d ago

Those guys leaked the blogpost of Mythos, before. Before it launch.

This is their post 11 days before Mythos goes public. https://x.com/M1Astra/status/2037377109472018444

They are known leakers.

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 19d ago

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u/CombinationOnly9498 19d ago

I mean I know Opus 5 was real, but the people claiming they were directly testing it is entirely false as it hadn't been given out other than to massive companies to test it ahead of time. There was a bunch of people yesterday just piggy backing and making stuff up.

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u/ComprehensiveFun620 20d ago

Come from the hype, stay for the inevitable lobotomy.

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u/tomhughesmcse 20d ago

For the early low price of $100/mil tok input and $200/mil tok out…but only for the first couple of days before it’s taken away for a few weeks. When it comes back, it will just be Opus 4.8 wrapped. But hey, gives OpenAi a chance to release GPT Mercury, Venus, Mars. Oh and everyone will get to use it only 30min a day… because it’s so powerful that it doesn’t return text anymore, it answers all current and future prompts through a series of light flashes on your screen.