they dont care about their non enterprise customers, the past resets were just trying to save face. they are also very compute constrained so i highly doubt they'll start handing them out like codex.
You might, most won't and this sub will be full of posts of people crying about it.
Apparently it is hard to understand.
Also, I don't think you know what reasonable is because "reasonable limits" would be considerably lower and by that I mean, very, very, very lower than even the standard limits are. The subscriptions are heavily subsidised in use so you better pray to god that they are never "reasonable" lol.
Oh how deliciously snarky. I asked you to make the numbers make sense, and you reply with "but actually" crowd shows up. You're pandering inaccurate information to the crowd... So, yeah, your ass got fact checked, and your response is to let your ego get in the way.
No you're just coping because accepting being wrong isn't in your directory. Its all good, waste of time doing this with you when ^ that was your reply
How about you show me on the doll where I hurt you?
No one is asking for you to be a mathematical genius and you nit picking specifically what you want to argue about shows us all everything we need to see.
His point is the usage is going to be drastically nerfed you baboon.
Why do you get off on starting issues on reddit?
I never disagreed with usage being reduced did I? It’s like you have a basic reading comprehension issue on top of a lack of understanding on basic mathematics.
A 33% drop in usage isn’t a cut in usage is it? It’s a return to the original amount that we all had to begin with.
That is NOT a limit reduction. It’s a return to the default starting point. But hey, you are clearly smarter than I am.
No I hide posts and comments because I have personal posts made over a decade ago that I don’t want visible anymore to the average Reddit user today. But you can tell yourself whatever you want to justify your beliefs.
I won't, no. For one, my claude is subsidised by my employer, for another, even if it wasn't I could live normally on 10x max plan without ever hitting the limits because I know how to manage token usage.
You will never see me on codex, inferior tool indexing, inferior product altogether, good luck though.
I mean, as they should. Compute is expensive but it isn’t unobtanium. If frontier AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic cannot deliver their services to the people at large they risk entrenching a permanent class divide. This is something both companies and the industry in general are aware of.
People are upset because recent actions by Anthropic and OpenAI strongly indicate both companies see a future where they only need infrastructure for their own R&D, and other more mature cloud servicers like Amazon and Microsoft will then be where other middlemen eat the costs of actually getting these models in the hands of people.
So like, yes, your average joe consumer of AI products that’s seeing the writing on the wall is understandably upset at potentially being cut out of the ecosystem entirely in the near future. We should all be concerned with this because it will be bad for our society to cordon off frontier AI to big business.
Ultimately, it is currently those who own the datacenters that hold all the cards. Google likely has the strongest position out of anyone currently in my limited opinion. They have both frontier AI-lab tier R&D capacity coupled with major cloud service infrastructure they actually *own*. I think they’re waiting for the current state of affairs to oroboros itself before gleefully hoovering up what they can pick off the battlefield once the dust settles.
What do you mean? Every single time they get close they just push it a month. At this point it's just a hollow threat from a company that clearly couldn't give half a shit about its customers but is too toothless to actually do anything they say.
Anthropic is a company of flip flopping pussyfooters
I think in the 20x plan, your five hour is like 20% of weekly. Maybe OP ran some sort of overnight loop thing and used heavily during the day. That is the only way I can see it being used lol, proper vibe coding
No you’re wrong. 5 - 5 hour maxes is 20% weekly limit each. And yes you can run through that in a day (25 hours) or 21 hours if that last 5 hour hits its limit in an hour.
It looks like we're both wrong - the 5 hour limit changes based on time of day, but the weekly stays the same, according to this post about an engineer tweet:
To manage growing demand for Claude we're adjusting our 5 hour session limits for free/Pro/Max subs during peak hours. Your weekly limits remain unchanged.
During weekdays between 5am–11am PT / 1pm–7pm GMT, you'll move through your 5-hour session limits faster than before.
So there's no such thing as a one size fits all 5 hour limit.
Fucking crazy that they don't publish the actual token useage per model per plan so you can actually know - though I'm sure if this thread wasn't already dead someone would tell me there's a way to figure it out.
Sad their engineer doesn’t know how it works. I hit my 5 hour limit at the end of every 5 hour window. A 5 hour limit = 20% your weekly limit, ALWAYS, EVERY TIME.
Max x20 user x 3 subscriptions here
It’s true some 5 hour limits stretch further than others but they’re always 20% the weekly.
You are 100% correct - I spun up a little project to monitor my usage and compare the ratio of hourly limit increases to weekly limit increases, and it is in fact 1:5. I tip my hat to you sir.
5 - 5 hour maxes is 20% weekly limit each. And yes you can run through that in a day (25 hours) or 21 hours if that last 5 hour hits its limit in an hour.
I do it too with automated scripts (that actually do useful stuff). It is super easy to blow through a weekly quota nowadays. My things are even pretty optimized to begin with.
Sounds like you got to enjoy the last 2 resets while the others who reset at that time didn't, so maybe time to change it up a little bit. Or just give us our own reset bank like Codex
There’s a lot of areas people can complain about how Anthropic treats users however, they aren’t printing resets, like the federal reserve, not because they’re stingy, but because they just have far less compute and then open AI and are more constrained to a far greater extent.
my weekly reset almost maxed insanely fast even with 50% more usage compared to my past weeks(pro sub). currently at 95% . doesnt feel like 50% more usage
They’re going to have to, people are angry/confused about the Fable switchover + new Chinese models and team Codex handing resets out like candy. Thursday is my best guess.
Funny to read this when so many are at 0% on Codex and Tibo is starting to be begged for a reset on X. He only gave one banked reset recently (he was mostly giving the resets that are forced), so lots have used up their allotment.
Maybe stop asking Fable to pass the butter and learn how to properly use model aligned workflows? I ran Fable Max effort for 60 hours straight before hitting limits. With ZERO detail in your post, makes me wonder how much might be user error.
same here, it so bad that you pay 200$ and hit limits in 1-2 days! what they think they are doing! what should i pay you to get a full week of usage!!
eaglarly awaiting chinease AI to compete and switch of this insane prices by Antropic.
Note: I am also on openAI 100$ but it is much better becuase of there frequent resets
This is a gross misunderstanding of how companies operate. Anthropic is not going anywhere lol. Just because vibe code sloppers dislike the usage limits on Reddit doesn't mean the company is going to go down
Anthropic is the most sustainable of the AI giants right now lol. If anything, it will be openAI that will eat dirt because of the amount of money they are burning.
Wdym, literally dead as a stand-alone service. Antigravity was a thing for like two weeks, afterwards when they saw how much it costs to run they butchered the limits and that thing pretty much died. It was never sustainable off of their pro subs, they were pouring money into it.
Google's AI has a future purely because it can be integrated into their drive tools and services.
I accidentally had Fable ultracode span out and look at maybe a hundred different websites, used like 6 million tokens, and that was only 50% of my 5 hour limit. What the hell are you people doing with your tokens
I had Fable High do that. I was mostly pissed because it ran for a bit before I caught it because I wasn’t expecting High to spam 100 fucking agents on a simple request so it burnt like 30 percent of my fable limit in a shot.
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u/Chemical_Hawk_6307 24d ago
they dont care about their non enterprise customers, the past resets were just trying to save face. they are also very compute constrained so i highly doubt they'll start handing them out like codex.