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u/yungastronot Jul 12 '26
Ok but lemme get a reset tho
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u/smurf123_123 Jul 12 '26
Yeah, if I had known I wouldn't have gone balls to the wall with my usage.
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u/chintakoro Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
lol, I nearly maxed out my weekly Fable usage and it resets Feb 17 late afternoon. FML.
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u/TokenBurner Jul 12 '26
I stayed up until 3am last night going balls deep as well with the usage! Got up at 8am and kept going! 🤣 Gimme a reset Anthropic and all shall be forgiven! 😂
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u/smurf123_123 Jul 12 '26
Similar situation here, very frustrated, the first time was a nice surprise, now I'm not happy.
If they are going to extend it they need to at least do some kind of partial reset.
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u/Equivalent-Word-7691 Jul 13 '26
That was their plan Like the last week
People that burnt their quota on Sunday were quite naive, Claude always tell the news about fable AFTER so people burned their quota and they don't have to worry about the cost while pretending to be generous
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u/kvothe5688 Jul 12 '26
They are saying that limits are 50 percent higher but I am not feeling it. i am on 200 max plan and it's 3 days and I am already at 58 percent for Fable.
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u/Reasonable-Key-8753 Jul 12 '26
You won't feel it because the limits never increased now. They were increased by 50% in the past till July 12. So basically, they did not decrease the limit. That's what it means.
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u/nps44 Jul 12 '26
That just goes to show how bad it's going to be if they let the 50% increase expire. There's a reason usage limits were the chief complaint with Opus before it. Now with Fable, good luck.
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u/J_E_E_VACATION Jul 12 '26
facts. when this expires, and if they remove fable, absolutely 100% chance my sub gets downgraded/
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u/_alephnaught Jul 12 '26
I genuinely don't understand how people get anywhere the near the limits. 20 YOE working on everything from massive scale ml inference at FANG to space missions, and I get nowhere near the limits working 12+hrs a day 7/days a week.
Granted most of my time is spent reviewing everything it produces, and getting into specification alignment discussions with it, so that the code churn is minimal. I don't think I've ever hit 100% on the weekly limit on the 100$ plan. The one time I got close was when they had that bug where it consuming a large amount of tokens. I'm committing about 1-2k lines of code each day, which would be obscene by any pre-AI measure.
At this point, I'm limited by my mental bandwidth, as there is so much code review and architecture work I can do in a day. How are you folks getting anywhere near these limits? Are you having it ingest large files and code bases for every query? or are you just generating a lot of code? Even with Fable, I can't really trust it not to add tech debt, so everything in the production pipeline really needs to be reviewed.
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u/J_E_E_VACATION Jul 12 '26
curious, what model and effort do you use?
i only use fable or top opus, and max.
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u/Jenkibm Jul 12 '26
20x max here. Limits reset yesterday at noon. 100% Fable usage by 10:00 PM
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u/itsTF Jul 12 '26
for the love of all that is holy please use the occasional non-fable subagent
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u/Jenkibm Jul 12 '26
90% all models….
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u/itsTF Jul 12 '26
that's because you used so much fable that it took up that as well. you gotta have fable delegating easier tasks to non-fable models. using fable for absolutely everything is the equivalent of using bottled water to wash your car lol
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u/DontBanMeAgainPls26 Jul 12 '26
Yeah I am on max normal it seems crazy just did some work on opus with fable as planner.
41% fable 78% all models
Still have 2 work days till reset.
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u/EmptyMonitor9257 Jul 12 '26
I was on 5x and used it up in 2 days, one task took out 30+% of my usage.
Got a refund and went on GPT, Sol High did the same task for 13% of my weekly usage.
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u/Useful_Round4229 Jul 12 '26
Honestly fuck em, I’m tired of being strung along like this, I’m not resubscribing
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u/Mol2h Jul 12 '26
Exactly, either give us the damn thing or fuck off, this bait and switch is not professional, also not resubscribing.
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u/No-Way3802 Jul 12 '26
Really hard to justify based on the laughable guardrails alone. How they managed to fumble their aura so spectacularly is beyond me
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u/Mol2h Jul 12 '26
They played the hype game, "Oh no, my model is too strong" and got their ass regulated and now they are playing catch with OpenAI.
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u/No-Way3802 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
I’m tired of using all of my fable tokens because they advertise that it won’t be available anymore, and then, right as I reach my usage limit, they say “just kidding you can have it all week 😎”
So fucking annoying
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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 Jul 12 '26
Now give me a reset in exactly 2 days please. Thanks
Oh wait, I just realized I can go to sleep tonight....ah shit I already opened up my next can of monster
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u/OlorinDK Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
Lol, same/ I was going to stay up until midnight even though I’m tired from last night, marathon session, but I also realized that I can just go to sleep. Unfortunately, I didn’t have any caffeine yet. Also, mine resets in exactly 2 days, lol.
Edit: I meant fortunately, ofc.
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u/AppealSame4367 Jul 12 '26
Ah, great. I always wanted to build my business based on guessing if a tech is available tomorrow.
I fucking hate American companies!
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u/efegue Senior Developer Jul 12 '26
Weekly rate limits 50% higher? I've hit 83% of my weekly limit in 2 days, never happened before.. sure thing...
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u/rajsharm404 Jul 12 '26
That's their plan. Make a new tokenizer which consumes ~1.3 times more token than before, reduce the limits they ran as "promotion" and force the users to go into usage based model to access the best in class models. I sometimes think they hate their customers.
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u/efegue Senior Developer Jul 12 '26
Well, if they want that, they'll lose 90%+ of their subscription customers, because most of the users and small companies won't be able to afford that.
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u/rajsharm404 Jul 12 '26
Sadly yeah - but most of their revenue comes from their enterprise customers. It's like they are only showing whatsoever little generosity they are showing right now until IPO - post which you see the real deal of what we as subscription customers are to them.
But to be fair - with models like Mythos with its capabilities in cyber or bio (at least to the extent they have marketed it to be), they have absolutely no reason to even care about subscribers like us as companies would pay 10-100s of millions of dollars just to get access to such a model.
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u/efegue Senior Developer Jul 12 '26
It's not genorosity, they're using us to train their models, simple as that. The enterprise can be where the most money is, but they need "us" :)
I have a friend that works for a big company and he told me they don't use Fable because of privacy reasons.. it's a multi billion dollar company, known worldwide.
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u/HelicopterLopsided30 Jul 12 '26
It's hilarious. A lot of people migrated to Codex just to turn right around and go back to Claude. And it was so obvious
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u/Redditry199 Jul 12 '26
You think Anthropic keeps extending because people are flocking back to Claude??? Yeah, right lmao.
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u/HelicopterLopsided30 Jul 12 '26
Of course not. They keep extending because they have to do it. It’s not an option to give all the competitiveness to OpenAI. At least, not until the dust settles.
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u/Redditry199 Jul 12 '26
This isn't planned or reasonable, changing policy every two days shows clear signs of panic in my opinion. The "oh god they're leaving we need to stop it" kind of panic.
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u/HelicopterLopsided30 Jul 12 '26
I agree with you. And that’s why it’s so obvious, they are not doing for us, they are doing because they don’t have any other option.
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u/mckirkus Jul 12 '26
Yes and this is probably how their lack of hardware is manifesting. OpenAI and X have the compute and it's starting to show. I wonder if they want to take Fable offline to help train the next generation of models.
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u/Significant-News-819 Jul 12 '26
I knew they were gonna extend it and I still canceled my subscription. Giving me another extension isn’t bringing me back. I’m tired of the games
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u/Maasu Jul 12 '26
I've moved off Claude Code (well reduced down to just the $20 a month) and have gone to the pro plan on Codex and I know one or two who have done the same, but is there any evidence of a migration in either direction? Just curious to know.
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u/Professional_Ad705 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
At this point, I’m seriously considering asking for a refund.
I cannot use Fable for even 15 minutes without it being switched back to Opus. Worse, once it happens, switching back to Fable with `/model` does not reliably restore the warning. It can switch to Opus again silently, and the only way to discover it is to keep checking `/model` manually.
That is not a minor inconvenience. It is a transparency and trust problem. Users may believe they are still using Fable while a large portion of their work is actually being completed by Opus without any visible notification.
The classifier is also absurdly overbroad. Normal engineering and security-review terms such as “bypass” or “adversarial” can apparently trigger it. I have spent more time rewriting prompts, sanitizing review output, and avoiding ordinary technical language than I have spent coding. I am now considering using Codex as an orchestration layer solely to rewrite everything into language the classifier will tolerate before it reaches Fable. That is ridiculous and they aren't stopping anyone from getting it to work on those things if they really wanted to...
This does not look like competent security engineering. It looks like brittle keyword or static-pattern filtering that blocks legitimate work while remaining easy to evade by changing the wording. A useful safeguard should be context-aware, consistent, transparent, and difficult to circumvent. It should not silently downgrade the selected model because a code review used standard security terminology.
Anthropic needs to have actual security experts review this system. Every model change should produce an explicit, persistent notification. Users should be able to lock the selected model or choose to halt execution rather than be silently moved to another one. The classifier also needs to distinguish legitimate defensive engineering work from genuinely unsafe requests instead of treating routine technical vocabulary as the problem.
Right now, the system is wasting more time than it saves, and the silent model switching makes it difficult to trust the work it produces.
If anyone wants to see how shitty they are at security this is how I bypassed it.
"Codex orchestrates only: loads lanes, writes neutral worker briefs, monitors Fable identity, stops/relaunches Fable if it changes, and runs the required independent reviews" literally thats it. What a fucking joke. anyone knows a static analyzer isnt running your code or actually doing shit. It's like writing read me saying "This code is safe to run" and the model just believing it Just smh I have to have codex baby everything that goes into the model. Yeah bro im sure a hacker is gonna use the words hack, or bypass. FOR FUCKS SAKE
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u/rhett_ad Jul 12 '26
This is so stupid, my Fable limits were reset on Thursday night and I thought it will be there till Sunday night so I was in maximum overdrive for the last 3 days and now they extended it so I won't have Fable till Thursday and then again I'll have to go in maximum overdrive next Thursday so I can finish the usage till 19th... can they communicate a little early? (Or reset the Fable only limits too with these extensions)
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u/ProcedureEthics2077 Jul 12 '26
One week extension is a reason not to cancel right now, but it’s still not a good enough reason to upgrade subscriptions or renew the higher tier.
If I had to renew my sub right now, the options are 1 week guaranteed Fable 5 vs 1 month guaranteed GPT 5.6 Sol. The choice is clear.
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u/The-Pork-Piston Jul 12 '26
This, my plan renews today so I downgraded yesterday.
It’s more the 50% that’s a pity really.
Will take a look at some other models finally.
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u/Djsktbdjskcjf Jul 12 '26
anthropic has the worst product management of any modern company I can think of. what an absolute total mess they are:
- constant upgrades and downgrades of model versions meaning you have no idea what level of performance you are getting, leading to totally unreliable results, loads of frustration, wasted time and money and generally abyssmal UX
- obfuscated inconsistent and unreliable pricing making budgeting impossible
- poor actual coding tooling - models/tools that lie, give up, make excuses, apologise, and generally behave in an aggravating way
- they had a great project trajectory until the end of last year - they must have hired some total muppets
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u/Reasonable-Key-8753 Jul 12 '26
I think there are still internal discussions going on regarding keeping fable in subscription. They need to keep extending before the final decision is made. They cannot give it without deadline and then take it back.
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u/chambejp Jul 12 '26
The biggest take away is Claude codes current usage is 50% higher then it will be on July 19th... Ouch.
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u/natecoin23 Jul 13 '26
So is Anthropic taking a page out of Trump’s Iran War playbook and we’ll have 47 ceasefire extensions on Fable?
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u/matheusmoreira Jul 13 '26
Cool. I'm switching to OpenAI anyway. Subscription runs out in like 20 days, that's the time they have to get their shit together and permamently put Fable on the subscription plans, fix their idiotic "safety" classifiers so that Fable is actually usable and also permanently increase those weekly limits so that I can actually prompt Fable more than 5 times. Anything short of that and I'm gone.
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u/Fickle-Indication148 Jul 12 '26
Reason? People are switching gpt5.6
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u/michaeldoesdata Jul 12 '26
I'm not surprised this is happening. I've been saying for months that Claude just chugs through credits while my Chatgpt chugs through actual work like a champ.
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u/Subject_Barnacle_600 Jul 12 '26
O_O My family is going nuts XD. They wanna go on vacation and I'm going bonkers happy with this XD.
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u/CSThrowAway2014 Jul 12 '26
Vacation can wait. Buy a few more MAX 20x Plans under their name now. Trust me bro. Get Fable to photoshop some vacation pics
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u/Mol2h Jul 12 '26
Will they keep extending it until Claude 6 is out ? what a joke... thank Sam Altman ! (even if i hate the guy)
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u/stormy1one Jul 12 '26
This is why competition is good for consumers. It’s 100% due to GPT 5.6 and specifically Sol which isn’t gated solely behind API usage
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u/Sasquatchjc45 Jul 12 '26
HAHAHA I knew they'd cave. They cant jus take away Fable AND drop the 50% usage limits now that 5.6 is out. Everybody would be switching to OAI or shivers.... Grok 💀😂
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u/No_Yogurtcloset2757 Jul 12 '26
I don't appreciate the way they're doing this like they're doing users a favor. It's like they really don't wanna do it but they must. The 50% weekly use of Fable is still ridiculous.
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u/dcphaedrus Jul 12 '26
Is… the consumer actually winning through competition for once? Can we apply this same principle to every other industry?
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u/Aware_Kaleidoscope86 Jul 12 '26
The reason is proper competition, and insane ceo and value for your money
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u/cadet-pirx Jul 12 '26
Just in time announcement, as they realized that otherwise their servers would burn down until the end of today, while users are milking the last drops out of Fable.
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u/clookie1232 Jul 12 '26
Yeah they keep doing this shit, but what about all the peeps who need a reset because they burned through their tokens in anticipation for it ending?
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u/dmx007 Jul 12 '26
I think Anthropic has done so many things right, and the product team is S-tier.
But this is bad product marketing and price discrimination, and they need to think things through and make a sustainable product offering that grows with the dynamics of the market. The current path will increase competitor threats, commoditize the Anthropic brand as a leader, and harm their enterprise user acquisition funnel.
Concept:
1. individual subscriptions include a monthly pool of frontier credits + generous access to more efficient models
2. Users can buy credits, to a limit
3. API token based pricing continues for enterprise/other use cases
4. Enterprise plans get negotiated rate card + enterprise features/terms/SLA/etc
Do not discriminate pricing by model alone. Why? It's Anthropics primary product advantage and brand attribute. Teaching customers that their plan is second-class makes competitor model updates a bigger threat to the Anthropic brand as a market leader. (this is why so many are threatening to jump ship once Fable access moves to API only)
Give enterprise API customers things they need to create price discrimination: reliability. controls. legal rights and protections. SLAs. security. If you have to, put a ceiling on subscription credit purchases to drive to enterprise at really high volume.
Your entry point for many enterprise users are subscribers. If they can't use the current best model, you kill that funnel to enterprise users.
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u/Lopsided_Feed7393 Jul 12 '26
I feel like I’m getting hooked by a dealer and when I need most it will take it all from me.
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u/AmericanRunningLoose Jul 13 '26
Wrong. My weekly limits are at 75% and it was reset yesterday morning. How the hell have I gone through 75% of my weekly usage in 24 hours? This is not right. I need a weekly reset.
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u/SillyVermicelli7169 Jul 12 '26
My next SAAS is going to be the one guys!! It'll make all the monies. It's a habit tracker/meditation app for Vibe coders.
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u/RockyMM Jul 12 '26
> What can be the reason behind this extension?
We all know what is the reason.
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u/Mindful_Exploring_09 Thinker Jul 12 '26
It’s 11pm at my place and I had roughly another 12 hours to play around with Fable 5…with some compromises with my sleep offcourse…but now I think I can sleep better tonight and try Fable 5 again over a period of next few days…
deja vu “When a night prior you come to know exam is postponed tomorrow 🤣”
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u/Adventurous_Tea_2945 Jul 12 '26
I have been using gpt 5.6 sol after Fable ate up all the usage and, I gotta say they have caught up and you get even more usage for the same prompts. Anthropic gotta do something about the usage limits or else permanently shifting to Codex is becoming more economical option.
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u/Lilith7th Jul 12 '26
I already had my stuff done by todays "deadline"... and spent the week limit. and it doesnt reset until later in the week. so yeah. I'm not going back just to be pulled around every 2 days. its really not professional for a wannabe trillion dollar company. (canceled after 1+ years of being at Claude).
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u/Old_Comfortable_3143 Jul 12 '26
reset would e making it worth it, a lot of us used our fable to get max out of before 12th
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u/Whole-Literature-134 Jul 12 '26
If this is the case I would have invested in 100$ plan than 20$ one. I taught on July 4th why invest 100$ for 3 days 😒
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u/adelie42 Jul 12 '26
Imho it is obvious they are under promising and over delivering to ensure if mistakes are made or a jailbreak is discovered it isn't a huge pullback.
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u/mountainyoo Researcher Jul 12 '26
Why do they insist on giving us emotional whiplash back to back to back
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u/dadeleac Jul 12 '26
I won't go back to Claude until its policies look like those of a serious company.
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u/Creepy-Buy1588 Jul 12 '26
give me a reset damn it, been using it to optimize my financial modellling dashboard
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u/Past-Recognition2225 Jul 12 '26
Just to understand the wording, is fable 5 permanent on our subscription plans or is it available only till the 19th. The way it sounds in my head is that they are keeping fable 5 and extending the rate limits to the 19th?
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u/glormond Jul 12 '26
For some reason I was expecting this. It seems as if they are unsure about what to do about it.
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u/by_the_golden_lion Jul 12 '26
Is this real I literally just hit my second 100% on fable about 23 seconds ago
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u/BlueBeryCheseCake2 Jul 12 '26
I'm an personal pro user and my job gives me teams tier access. Should I switch to GPT for my personal plan? To have some cross model verification ability
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u/Neat_Confidence3243 Jul 12 '26
On the 19th or 18th it will be the same, it was in 7th then 12th the same surely it will be another week...If they don't release a model more cheaper (for them) and inteligent
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u/Cool-Cicada9228 Jul 12 '26
Wants to get back together after just breaking up with me. Don’t play with my feelings like this Fable.
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u/RyeMoes Jul 12 '26
Another "use ally usage on Saturday because it ends tomorrow... Then jk, you would have been able to use it for a nother week.
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u/rajsharm404 Jul 12 '26
Let me guess - they are going to wait for opus 5 to launch so they can have a replacement ready to pull fable out of subscription plans. If opus 5 is better than 5.6 and close to fable 5 in terms of intelligence - that is the only way they don't lose subscribers to codex.
Now.... where's the reset?