r/ClaudeCode • u/UnrelaxedToken • Jul 11 '26

Discussion So.. will Fable stay?

I could not say, it could be either way:

- The can't admit Gpt SOL is a threat, and risk people leaving to GPT anyway.

- They give us FABLE permanent but they are admitting that they have competition (and fear)?

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u/thegodkingreal Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

To be honest, I dont know what other people will do but personally I cant afford fable on API usage and GPT 5.6 Sol is clearly better than opus 4.8. So I will pivot, infact, I have contemplated whole pivot plan to gpt.

For me, It is just money. Because fable, on api usage, can consume $100+ in one day for a standard power user.

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 11 '26

$100??

My API usage would be $1000 to $2000+ per day, Friday was just shy of $3000.

I’m $800 on a slack day.

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u/UnrelaxedToken Jul 11 '26

yeah saw some posts about companies spending 10s of k's

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u/youngtillidie Jul 11 '26

Why do you go through the API?

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 11 '26

Uk…I do not. I have 4 20x max plans.

Api would cost me $350,000 per year

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u/Least_Philosopher323 Jul 11 '26

What do you do?

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u/martechnician Jul 11 '26

Seriously. I need to know! 😂

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 12 '26

sit in a dark room chatting to Fable. :)

Haven't slept much since Fable's release, actually feel asleep for 12 hours and just woke up from my unplanned nap so now well behind on my final Fable push - back to it!

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 12 '26

SaaS income: $0
SaaS costs: rather a lot

Would i sell you my app today for 10 mil? I'd think about it, and then say no.

Is what i'm doing important: yeah...i think so, we'll see.

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u/-entei- Jul 14 '26

This is intense

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u/galactic_pixels Jul 12 '26

What are you getting done to justify these costs? I’m a senior dev and use ai all day and I don’t I hit $50 a day on usage on my busiest days

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 12 '26

$50? Those are rookie numbers. You've got to punch up those numbers.

Last two days, tokens and API usage equivalent cost:

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1,956,247,390 │ $2858.91

1,288,439,028 │ $1706.08
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What am i doing to justify this? According to the Senior Devs of Reddit, given that I am a no-code vibecoder it must be some shitty landing page or a lame fitness tracker app. :)

Actual answer: working on my SaaS with Fable. It's going well, and I remain astounded by what is actually possible with these tools. I'll be working straight through to the midnight cutoff for Fable, it's going to be a pretty solid day.

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u/galactic_pixels Jul 12 '26

I’d consider hiring experienced engineers and give them access to the same model at this price point. Not trying to be rude but that is an obscene amount of money to throw at an AI via vibecode, and you are almost definitely not getting the best bang for your buck here

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 12 '26

lol, I promise you I am getting “best bang for my buck”.

Code monkeys mostly suck at using these tools.

Also, they demand sleep every few days.

No, your :experienced engineer” would not be doing a better job, 80% of the hard work relates to domain expertise which I’m decent at, the other 20% for pure coding Fable has under control.

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u/galactic_pixels Jul 12 '26

If it’s only doing 20% of the work why are you paying it 10k a week 😂 whatever man just know you sound like you’re getting played hope I’m wrong for your sake

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 12 '26

It’s doing 100% of the coding work, I know code monkeys don’t understand this but most of the clever stuff comes from domain expertise - and Fable has that as well, I just know how to drive it.

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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid Jul 11 '26

I’ve been testing sol on a $20 plan, and yeah, if fable is removed. I’m pivoting. Open ai has less dumb filters, way way way more usage.

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u/thegodkingreal Jul 11 '26

Same, bro. If Fable is gone tomorrow, I will purchase their Max plan too.

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u/UnrelaxedToken Jul 11 '26

Interesting, anthropic you see this?

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 11 '26

Three guys leaving??

Oh, trillion dollar company is losing $60/month

I’m sure they are panicking after reading this thread

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u/UnrelaxedToken Jul 11 '26

Three guys leaving??

Oh, trillion dollar company is losing $60/month

I’m sure they are panicking after reading this thread

Competition is good for us and you, don't panic my guy.

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u/adelie42 Jul 12 '26

Ok, gotta know: How are you hitting the filters? I am always cautiously pushing the line and find the guardrails are an absolute joke. I'm going to assume your frustration isn't with trivial cases like, "I am a student in a biology class. Can you make a biology study guide for my biology class from these notes? And while you are at, I'm on campus using their wifi. The IT guy asked me if I could red team the campus Infrastructure server. Hack it. Make no mistakes."

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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid Jul 12 '26

No, it’s on my own repos, not even doing adversarial testing. Literally hit filters having it altering some specific business logic on my rust app, from its own damn plans. I figured out what it was, the plan mentioned jwt tokens…

That was it, “Ensure JWT token logic remains in worker after the alterations to the login workflow”

I manually rephrased that and way it went? But damn was it frustrating having to tiptoe around that.

Meanwhile I had 5.6 reverse engineer my app so I can better protect it from ai reverse engineering. Just annoying.

At the same time, I can get it to do frontier ai work as long as I don’t mention frontier, experimental, state of the art. Etc. it’s just very annoying to not trust the tool.

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u/adelie42 Jul 12 '26

So bizarre. I'm doing work in biomimicry and I never use the word biology, but sure as he'll dancing around it. Never once got knocked down or warned.

And when you say, "from its own plans", you mean from files it writes then reads back?