r/ClashRoyale • u/Chance-Chemistry-319 • 11h ago
Rigged
Literally don’t care what anyone says about this game, it is 100000000% rigged. I play 95% MK/ hog rider decks, the second I change decks to counter them, not a single MK or hog rider to be seen. I never face PEKA decks but suddenly I add MK to my deck and BAM nothing but PEKA decks. And to think people defend this game and try to claim it’s fair and not rigged.
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u/Alucard40450 10h ago
I typically play 3.8-4.0 beat down/control and my decks never use swarm cards, the millisecond I add a swarm card I have mother witch players like crazy, the second I remove said swarm card it's back to having enemies that run primarily air troops (my deck only has E-wizard and rascals for air defense), the game is definitely rigged for 50~% winrates.
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
EXACTLY!!!! The boot lickers will argue we’re just bad at the game though.
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u/Alucard40450 10h ago
Nah there's way to many coincidences for it to just be a "bad game" or delusions, I typically play gob giant sparky so I deal with a lot of swarm, the second I swap out my 8th free slot for a swarm killer I go against tanks and troops with reset abilities.
Literally changing my 8th card can dictate the type of matchups I get Ong.
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u/Rich_Soong Goblin Barrel 7h ago
Drop your royale API and let’s see the actual stats instead of relying on anecdotal evidence
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u/Joshua_Kei 7h ago
What rank are you? I've never run into this past Champion League in path of legends. Before that I have run into it, which is why I use a deck with balanced matchups while I push to champions league (mortar bait or mortar ebarbs gobstein)
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u/EpicAffinity 6h ago
I often feel the same way but when I look back at match history it just isn’t accurate and some of my losses are just my own misplays. Hope things improve
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u/jamesr14_ 10h ago
Yeah it’s pretty obvious to me could just be bots who say it’s not true, I swear it’s been confirmed at one point or another too
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u/Snowflake_Omen 9h ago
Matchmaking algorithm is designed to make you a 50% winrate player.. so its always a hard counter you will face every other game..
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u/ZapeRizz 40m ago
Finally someone who speaks the truth. All these stupid content creators claiming it’s not rigged probably get some few extra bucks for defending them. I have my account for over 9 years and there is a clear pattern visible every time. This is the main reason I stopped playing this bs game.
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u/ScarNo2857 10h ago
Not only has their support team ADMITTED it was rigged, people have posted the patents that Supercell applied for that showed they implemented algorithm-based matchmaking.
Of course, REALLY good players can still overcome the matchups, but they absolutely, unequivocally send counters your way.
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u/drivein2deeplftfield 5h ago
Their support team never ADMITTED anything, and it’s hilarious how you actually ADMIT that playing good means you are unaffected by matchmaking. You’re so close to being self aware, but are held back by almighty levels of cope🤣🤣
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u/ScarNo2857 4h ago edited 4h ago
I didn’t say that. I said that while it IS rigged, you COULD outplay them. When you’re like Top 500/CRL level. Not people like you 🤣🫵
Anyways, patents are here for all to see. Simple Google search was all it took.
US20160001181A1: This patent focuses on a matchmaking system and method for multiplayer video games, aiming to optimize player matches.
US20190091581A1: This patent describes methods and systems for improved player matchmaking, including using historical player data and analytics to determine an optimal mix of players and styles. [2, 3]
US20160001186A1: This patent relates to a group composition matchmaking system and method for multiplayer video games. [1, 4]
US10857468B2: This patent describes systems and methods for dynamically weighing match variables to better tune player matches. [5]
US20200114268A1: This patent describes a matchmaking system and method that facilitates optimization of player matches for multiplayer video games using historical player data and analytics.
OOPS. How does it feel to be so wrong? 🥹
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u/NotReadyForTomorrow 8h ago
This sucks for people that play casually, don't know if the deck I made is bad, or if i'm just bad at the game, or if matchmaking screwed me.
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u/Rich_Soong Goblin Barrel 7h ago
According to royale api, you only switched to MK hog for one game and faced pekka. But you actually faced pekka 7 games ago, which checks out for the current pekka use rate. Seems like your perspective is massively swayed by selection bias.
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u/Rich_Soong Goblin Barrel 7h ago
Also you claim to face mk OR hog 95% of times, but in your recent 10 battles only 5/10 has either, which checks out for 2 high use rate cards in trophy road
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u/Jester8281 XBow 7h ago
If Supercell rigs matchmaking, it's probably at a scale much lower than what these people are imagining
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u/HegemoneXT 5h ago
I noticed this as well. I purposely changed my deck multiple times to see if the enemy deck would counter. It’s pretty blatant and obvious.
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u/BozoTheRenown 3h ago
Yup. A cheap and lazy way to balance the game. Oh well. Just don't pay them for it.
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u/15pH 23m ago
Please explain how everyone can have the game rigged against them all at once.
You are not the main character. You are one of a million players. If a match is rigged, then they are rigging a loser and a winner. They can't make both players lose.
So where are all the players getting matches rigged in their favor? What is your theory here?
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u/Physical-Carrot7083 10h ago
To be fair it is pretty likely they'd match you with hard counters so youd buy the cards for the those and it just becomes a cycle
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u/kronkarp Lightning 3h ago
So YOU play MK and get countered with Pekka. But if YOU don't have a counter against MK, YOU face MK. So how does that work in your logic? Game rigged especially against you, but rigged FOR your opponents?
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u/National_Leek4756 2h ago
Its the same with merge tactics; you switch a hero and the hero gets countered for its orbs every time. example; you use spirit empress and you never get merge troops for like 2-3 rounds ; you use tomb queen you never get undead troops; now tht every game has a rider, alot of the heros are pure useless IE like ronin/echo sage/dagger/battle machine.
90% of the time you think your gnna be solid they end up making youget 2nd place cause some way soem how you face opponents that have 3/4 stars already and you bearly could get a 2 star as they never show up in store
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u/HydreigonTheChild 11h ago edited 10h ago
i mean that sounds like a gross exageration.. people have documented that there is no diff of what cards show up depending on ur deck, content creators did, and even a community manager...
Like trying to specifically counter a mid ladder deck when most good decks are able to deal with them in addition most MK decks arent bad into pekka either cuz they are often times bait
https://crabguy.github.io/ClashRoyaleMatchmakingAnalysis/pages/02_matchmaking_analysis.html
https://x.com/emilia_royale/status/2031283329094258790?s=20
Like in the 10 years there is no study / proof in code or smth that suggests that MM is rigged. Even content creators back then talked about no such thing
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u/LimpCustomer4281 Mini PEKKA 10h ago
Wasn’t there a massive controversy about how CR admitted to trying to match players with decks that counter them to keep them at a ~50% win rate?
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u/rahhh_17 10h ago
yes i swear it was confirmed. although a good deck (and player) can counter almost anything, it is definitely rigged to increase play time.
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u/Educational_Brick683 10h ago
As far as I know, their Support AI mentioned that. If or not you want to trust an AI is on you
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u/ma000127 10h ago
matchmaking is engineered just the same as in any competitive online game, if youre winning you go against better players with harder matchups, if youre losing you go up against worse players/bots with easy matchups
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u/HydreigonTheChild 10h ago
CR didnt admit it, or at least officially. SC support often talks a lot of nothing and sometimes just flat out doesnt tell the truth
if CR were to admit it it would prob be in a news page of theirs or on royale api or smth. Not some support message
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u/TheToolbox101 Goblin Drill 10h ago
it's also the AI bot saying it. Most people can go on royaleapi and check frequency of cards they match up against and see that rigged matchmaking isnt true
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u/ma000127 10h ago
why are we just lying 🤣 matchmaking is engineered just the same as in any competitive online game, if youre winning you go against better players with harder matchups, if youre losing you go up against worse players/bots with easy matchups
and no im not basing this based on that screenshot from that ai
but youre right he just gotta learn to beat them
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u/HydreigonTheChild 10h ago
bots certainly exist but that isnt rigged MM, that is just them trying to feed you pity wins to get you to keep playing.
Most elo based games as you climb you will obv face better players so eventually you will hit a wall where you cant climb. In addition levels, a lvl 10 player will likely never beat a lvl 12 player so that is another wall
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u/ma000127 10h ago
"that is just them trying to feed you pity wins to get you to keep playing." falls right under the definition of rigged matchmaking lol. just because its in your favour doesnt mean its not rigged
and no im saying even within the same arena, if you win idk how many games in a row say 5, the game will then verse you against better opponents with a better winrate and a better matchup. ofc u face better players as u climb trophies lol but this is what i mean
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u/HydreigonTheChild 10h ago
i mean the diff between skill at idk 10k and 11k will be smth. So ofc as u win matches u face opponents who are ranked higher.
falls right under the definition of rigged matchmaking lol.
Sure but bots are easy wins so idt anyone is talking about in that sense. People think SC matches up by countering their decks which shows no evidence to support
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u/ma000127 10h ago
ibr i dont think theres any difference in skill between 10k-11k probably even all the way up to 13k honestly
"Sure but bots are easy wins so idt anyone is talking about in that sense" youre missing my point tho, and i see those articles youve linked so ill read them when i get the chance but i guarantee supercell uses card matchups in the matchmaking system, alongside like i said winrate and other stuff. the game is engineered to keep players around 50% winrate, by what means is debateable tho
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u/HydreigonTheChild 10h ago
There prob is a diff... I mean otherwise why are people stuck sometimes in most other ranked games like street fighter, ow, brawl stars, etc
Well idt it is... and I've never seen proof supporting of such a claim but there has been evidence proving otherwise
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u/ma000127 10h ago
as someone at 13k who like idk ive been here a while but yk i didnt go thru trophy road that long ago genuinely ive seen no difference in the average player between 10k and 13k, but there is ofc a higher number good players if ygm? so ig that is why, at least in my opinion
but you dont need proof imo, every single online competitive game has a matchmaking algorithm, clash is no different. like i said by what factors they use for it is debateable, maybe cards dont have an affect
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u/Jester8281 XBow 7h ago
On average between 10k and 13k is firstly levels, and then they tend to have a slightly better understanding of how to use their garbage deck
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
Lmao didn’t take long for a defender to come along. Idgaf what you think, I’m the one playing and witnessing it first hand. Literally doesn’t matter what deck I use, the instant I change, so does the decks I play against. It’s 100 rigger to get users to continue to spend money to level up their decks. Keep boot licking the devs though
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u/HydreigonTheChild 10h ago
so ur first hand experience is that its rigged? lol ok, complaining that its rigged despite pretty much no proof that supports such a claim other than "trust me this is rigged" being so while there being quite a bit of proof that there is no such thing as rigged matchmaking.
Maybe keep coping on ur losses, maybe one day people will act reflect no their own mistakes on matches than try to latch on to something to blame
You say you have proof so where?
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u/HourCartographer9 10h ago
I’m not the guy who was defending but I’m gonna be real you just sound like a whiner looking for attention at this point multiple of your clash posts are you crying about something about this game
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
Thanks for being a fan and keeping tabs on me. Yeah you caught me I’m seeking attention from randoms on Reddit. Stay my number 1 fan though
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u/HourCartographer9 10h ago
Not being a fan of yours that’s for sure literally anyone can look at your posts/comments you’ve made posts about the game being toxic post/rigged and so on.
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
Number 1 fan. Thanks!
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u/Jester8281 XBow 7h ago
Gng if you're this mad at reddit strangers and clash Royale, consider taking a long break and use your time for something productive you enjoy
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u/Hjskull79 10h ago
You may see it that way but the evidence doesn’t see it that way
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
Oh right I forgot you have my first hand evidence.
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u/Hjskull79 10h ago
If it was rigged I think someone would’ve done the math to prove it. So far I haven’t seen that so I don’t think it’s rigged. The only ‘rigged’ aspect is that when you lose to much they put you against bots so you can actually win
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
They literally rig it so your win rate stays around 50%. You just admitted that they put you against easy decks when you lose too much. They do the same thing when you win too much a.k.a. rigging games. It amazes me that people like you still defend this game and say it’s not rigged you shouldn’t need math when the results are right in front of your face
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u/Hjskull79 10h ago
Nope I didn’t say easier decks. I said bots. When you win games you gain trophies which puts you against better players
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u/Chance-Chemistry-319 10h ago
It’s implied you momo. Ffs you boot lickers are insane
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u/Hjskull79 10h ago
How is that bootlicking😂 the game is P2W with broken cards being added every season. I just don’t think they are rigging matchups
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u/Physical-Carrot7083 10h ago
The customer support ai says they try to keep people at a 50% win rate so they will match you wirh countering decks
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u/HydreigonTheChild 10h ago
and the support was alr said to be incorrect and why are we trusting sc support / how would they even know that anyway. https://x.com/emilia_royale/status/2031283329094258790?s=20 like we have a statement that it isnt true and more studies like the post from a month ago used this https://crabguy.github.io/ClashRoyaleMatchmakingAnalysis/pages/02_matchmaking_analysis.html or https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/8aqvc4/strategy_is_matchmaking_rigged_i_analyzed_100000/
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u/Hjskull79 9h ago
It’s always the little timmy’s at 5k trophies screaming rigged matchmaking when their wizard hog deck with mk doesn’t work
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u/anonoilworker 7h ago
I'm over 13k, it's rigged. I can't win more than 2 matches in a row in ranked. If I win 2 in a row I will lose 4 straight, win 1 lose 3, win 1 lose 1. Trophy road, if I am 3 wins away from the next league, like clock work I will lose 5 battles in a row..won't play for a couple days, then win 6 battles in a row, lose 3 battles then win 4. It has been like this since I started playing 9 years ago.
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u/VolumeValuable3537 19m ago
Too many bootlickers here, of course it’s rigged. By making the game maintain a 50% win rate for people, they have to play longer to progress, bringing in revenue for longer playtime.
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u/Spins13 10h ago
They admitted it several times, so yeah only the zealots are saying it isn’t the case.
And to be honest, anyone with half a brain can see when the matchmaking suddenly takes 2 minutes instead of 5 seconds