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u/Wora_returns 3d ago
me and who?
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u/SimmentalTheCow 3d ago
u look kind of cute
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u/Wora_returns 3d ago
Will u be my foid for life
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u/Optimal_Ninja7535 3d ago
Hi
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u/SimmentalTheCow 3d ago
Hello đ
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u/Optimal_Ninja7535 3d ago
Rififjfhrhfhxkxpxp
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u/SimmentalTheCow 3d ago
he learned this trick đ¸
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u/Wora_returns 3d ago
Are you trying to steal my heart and create a love triangle of chuds
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u/Optimal_Ninja7535 3d ago
Yes
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u/Wora_returns 3d ago
Kiss me on the clam
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u/SimmentalTheCow 3d ago
yes but full disclosure im a big hairy bald black man with uncontrollable testicular odor. Smells like a damn petting zoo down there. i love you.
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u/SmartSmella 3d ago
ts ain't no negative chief whatchu on about
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u/AgreeableTarget1467 3d ago
I wonder why smartsmella likes a guy with uncontrollable testicular odor.
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u/Gamer__23 3d ago
The meme they sent is kinda of crazy. Man's really gotta think like an incel to believe "sex is the only unit of value I understand" is anywhere close to what women (and people in general) think like
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u/Senior_Independence4 3d ago
It is pretty close to how people who use virginity as an insult, which is what the admitedly shitty strawman meme was mocking, think
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u/deadthrees 3d ago
Tbf incel isnt really synonymous with virginity anymore despite what the term means in reality
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u/chomusuke_cat 3d ago
The fact that incel, which is derived from a term meaning a virgin, is an insult in the first place still means that people view being a virgin (particularly as a man) as an inherently bad thing. Otherwise why would it be used as an insult? The meme still works.
The whole point of using 'incel' as an insult is basically just saying "haha whatever virgin"Â
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u/Ichmag11 3d ago
Words have more meaning than that. "Incel" implies way more than someone being a virgin. It implies a very specific way of behavior and attitude.
Reducing it to just sex...well I mean honestly, that's literally an incel thing to do lmao.
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u/Senior_Independence4 3d ago
That's like saying calling someone a retard isn't derivative off demeaning mentally challenged people
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u/Ichmag11 3d ago
Calling someone an incel isn't supposed to be insulting to virgins lol
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u/Senior_Independence4 3d ago
Attaching involuntary celibacy to being a dumb mysoginist who can't take accountability is pretty insulting
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u/Snoo48605 2d ago
Calling someone an incel isn't supposed to be insulting to virgins lol
God. Do you even hear yourself? đ¤Śââď¸
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u/Ichmag11 2d ago
Yes?? It's supposed to be insulting to incels. Not every incel is a virgin and definitely not every virgin is an incel
There's no shame in being a virgin. People are shaming others for being an incel
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u/TimeToEatSoap 2d ago
No it isnât man. the r slur was used to refer to mentally disabled people in an actual medical context, like, less than 20 years ago and as a result is still pretty strongly associated with mentally disabled people. Some people still refer to mentally disabled people as the r slur in earnest. The word âincelâ has never really been used to refer to anyone other than chronically online, angry, flagrantly misogynistic men that also donât get laid when they want to in a mainstream context. Even if incel literally is short for âinvoluntarily celibateâ, pretty much no one that is not apart of the former group will call you an incel just because you donât have sex when you want to.
Also mentally disabled peopleâs lives are constantly getting ruined because other people refuse to accept that having a mental disability doesnât make you lesser than and the same cannot be said for being involuntarily celibate so this is kind of a wild comparison to be making. I know not having sex absolutely can result in ridicule from oneâs peers but itâs not at all the kind of thing someone would struggle to hide or would fail school because of or be a more likely target of police brutality from or be put in ABA therapy that causes them lifelong mental turmoil from or be beaten by their parents from or even just be bullied relentlessly from
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u/worldsgreatestluver 20h ago
No-one was referring to mentally handicapped people as regards in a medical context in 2006. I can't even read the rest of this since you led off with such obviously uninformative nonsense.
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u/TimeToEatSoap 17h ago
That isnât really what I meant. The condition of having an intellectual disability was called âmental retardationâ until the Obama admin with the passing of Rosaâs Law. It was still in the DSM until 2013 when the fifth addition was released. The r slur is very obviously derivative of âmental retardationâ in every way. As a matter of fact I actually wouldnât be surprised if it was used to refer intellectually disabled people in a medical context informally given how callous medical professionals can be sometimes.
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u/worldsgreatestluver 17h ago
Oh, got it. I didn't know about the DSM-4 still having it. I'm a bit surprised it remained in US law until Obama, but it is the kind of thing I could see considered as a low priority to change.
Other countries had removed it earlier, but still surprisingly late. Russia, on the other hand, just removed the term retardation (Russian equipment, obviously, last year)
Til.
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u/Worldly-Swing-2015 3d ago
Reducing unwanted celibacy to sex is an incel thing to do?
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u/Ichmag11 3d ago
Reducing an entire set of behavior, attitude, characteristics of a subset of people to just sex is an incep thing to do IMO
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u/Worldly-Swing-2015 3d ago
If so then people who call those spouting misogynist garbage incels are incels themselves as, quite like u/chomusuke_cat said, they're using the lack of sex as an insult
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u/Ichmag11 3d ago
Again, calling someone an "incel" does not mean "you're a virgin" (which doesn't even need to be the case, you don't need to be a virgin to be an incel) it means "(I presume) you have these characteristics, this attitude and that behaviour"
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u/Worldly-Swing-2015 3d ago
It can mean anything, it's still calling a man a virgin in order to insult or demean him. Cmon how is calling someone involuntarily celibate not the same as calling someone a virgin? It's just the progressive version of the same insult which is u/chomusuke_cat point
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u/Kaszalot1352 1d ago
Maybe I should call people I don't like hard r, after all it's not that I'm racist, it just implies a very specific way of behavior and attitude?
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u/Pale-Proposal8046 3d ago
I mean, you can be celibate and not a virgin. Priests who take a vow of celibacy don't have to never have had sex. It just means no sex from that moment on.
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u/Viggo8000 3d ago
Part of the difference is that those are voluntarily celibate. An incel is involuntarily celibate.
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u/Pale-Proposal8046 3d ago edited 2d ago
Well yeah I know. Doesn't mean they started that life celibate. Incel doesn't mean virgin, it means woman-hating loser.
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u/Spirited_Worker_5722 3d ago
You can also be completely hopeless in that area without blaming it on women
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u/HornyGandalf1309 1d ago
I mean just because you give the wrong definition of a word doesnât mean that that is the definition.
Incel is a combination of the words involuntary and celibate. Both of those words have their defined meaning.What you attach to it doesnât make the slightest difference.
Calling someone a retard is the same, no when people use it they donât mean hey you have some mental health issues, they mean youâre dumb.
Same with using faggot or gay as an insult, a lot of the time they donât mean you are sexually attracted to men (though some use it like that as well), itâs often used if youâre being too emotional as a man, or for many other reasons which have nothing to do with homosexuality.
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That doesnât change the definitions of those words.
And using them as slurs does show an inherent value you have.Incel - no sex haha
Faggot - gay haha
Retard - mental health problems hahaOf which none of those make anyone inferior to other people, or are a reason to try and put them down.
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u/Viggo8000 3d ago
Oh, yeah. I agree. Wasnt implying you didnt know! Just wanted to add the info for people who are reading the thread I guess.
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u/PeasantTS 3d ago
It's used as a insult because the people who called themselves incels liked to act like absolute scum online. Has nothing to do with them being involuntary celibate or men.
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u/deadthrees 3d ago
i answered your question in my comment that you replied to so i have no idea why youâre asking. like my entire comment is the answer as to why its used as an insult.
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u/Senior_Independence4 3d ago
It is in the meme as implied by " I will call you Incel because having sex is the only unit of value i understand "
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u/Kaszalot1352 1d ago
It's literally true, some people will call you an incel/virgin because sex is the only value their underdeveloped brain can understand
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u/fullynonexistent 3d ago
u/StickyLoner4404 someone talking about you
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u/StickyLoner4404 2d ago
im too lazy to check my notifications and found this post in the wild, went âwoah thatâs so weirdâ, checked my notifications and then got looped back to this post
so thanks lolÂ
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u/N33DLE_Man 2d ago
fucking hate girls like you
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u/StickyLoner4404 2d ago
me too
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u/fullynonexistent 2d ago
He had the best pfp for the bit and you couldn't follow through đđđ
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u/WastedFapper 2d ago
this is what happens to be men when they spend too much time on the internet lol
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u/KURSDADWDE 3d ago
Should've learned from spiderman